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Q: What happened to my Q about China's worst nightmare?
I rated the question higher than most of the drivel I usually ask.
It was there a couple of hours ago, but now it's gone.
Oh well....here it is again.....
What do you think would be China's worst nightmare? I think it's happening right now.
I think that every question that spammer commented on got removed. I'm guessing that based the fact that I HAD 443 posts, and now I have less.
royceH:
Yeah, you're probably right.
Only 438 posts but already a General. You don't muck around cobber.
ScotsAlan:
I had a half dozen -2 point answers at about 5:30 today. I am about 12 points down. I will never get my torch at this rate 
TedDBayer:
I've complained about the counter, it used to go backwards, sometimes doesn't work, answer a question and get no points. I've lost huge hunks of points when profiles get deleted, when fogger went I lost over 800, Admin said 'oops'.
Answerring a question is listed 5 points no 2. I have over 19,000 points and wonder what my total really is or if I'll ever get my coats (seems there is a 3 yr wait)
I wish admin would fix whatever is wrong with the site and typing
adminanswer:
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China's leaders worst nightmare is that their people ask for justice for things such as Tiananmen massacre or the millions of people who died during the Great Leap Forward.
Chinese peoples' worst nightmare is that other countries choose to exclude China from their lists of countries from which they accept immigrants, they would be forced to stay in their polluted shithole.
Disease. A new strain that wipes out billions... traced back to a chicken farm in Guangdong.
Thankfully that is one thing they are taking deadly seriously here. Or at least the Government are. They have learnt lessons from the past on this one.
DrMonkey:
I go to the market to buy vegetables. What this stench I can smell from 100 meters away ? Ha yeah, the two butcher shops, non-functional refrigeration, it's above 30c for the whole day, the meat smells awfully bad. And not shit is given, like none was given before that.
ScotsAlan:
Yup. That's what I mean Dr M.
The people on the street have no idea. But if someone from that market ends up in hospital and the alarm bells go off, I reckon that market will be locked down quicker than a chicken's knickers can come down.
The Gov does not want the next pandemic to be traced back to here.
DrMonkey:
Well, proactive policy versus reactive policy... And for pandemics, the excuse "but we didn't know that proactive policies works way, way better while being cheaper in the long run" is not available anymore. The reason nothing change beyond closing market *after* a problem is spotted, rather than making the problem very unlikely by applying regulations, is : rule of the law. Rule of the law does not seems very compatible with power monopoly, and cultural biases does not help either. But we just say "This Is China", we make a sad face, and things keep rolling as usual.
RiriRiri:
Last strain of flu came from pigs corpses being disposed of in the river.
First cases were reported months after patient contamination occurred and they came by dozens after that, with visibly little hurry to do anything to investigate.
The only thing they are actually afraid of is the loss of face that would be incurred from a real outbreak, proving no lesson was learned from SRAS.
I strongly suspect that the retention strategy planned for such an occurrence does not involve medical support as much as press control.
ScotsAlan:
Riri, I can't recall there being human cases of swine flu from the dumped pigs.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/thousands-of-dead-pigs-wash-up-on-chinese-river-1-2830137
Secrets and really useful information get harmonized. Some of my funniest posts were harmonized because the Cat (then) had no sense of humour, I think he was saving them for his own use.
The Chinese government : Democracy
The Chinese people: More "Communism" censorship and harmonization.
A second century of humiliations.
royceH:
Yeah, they don't want that. So they'll do what's necessary to avoid it. They'll shut down, and preserve their faces.
But the $64 question is how and when will they go about shutting down? Will they do it before or after their grandstanding and postulating forces a response from their adversaries (read, other countries...)?
There is no worst nightmare in China IMO, Only worse...
short term I would say a skirmish with Japan ending badly for them.
Like lets say some stupid little patrol ship fires on a japanese fishing boat and japan's more competent sailors and pilots making short work of a Chinese task force.
Then what? They'll be riots in the streets!
No win scenario...accept a loss and the people wont tolerate it. Only way to win would be to escalate it to the point their numbers trump japan's technology. And then that will be the end of anyone trading with China.
DrMonkey:
If we believe the memories of Joseph Stillwell in China, back in the warlord era, most battles happened like that
* Army A and B meet at point C
* A few shots in the air, some artillery shot aimed at nothing very precise
* The largest army with all the cool gears win !
Most battles, it seems, not outright fights. Most armies were made of clueless, hungry, untrained guys clothed with rags. Officers paid themselves their soldiers, actually keeping most of the money for themselves. Warlords didn't care as far the officers were loyal. I'm not saying it's like that nowadays. But it gives an idea of mindset : never upfront, nice façade, usual mess behind.
expatlife26:
well you know that's why I don't really like their chances against a modern, advanced force.
Notice they're being much more provocative with vietnam, malaysia and philipines.
I would imagine Japan to be the only force in the region capable of definitively stopping them.
ScotsAlan:
Joseph Stillwell. One of the few western names in Chinese History.
Another name is Edgar Snow of course. I reckon he was Mao's big break. He was the guy who changed Chinese history.
It's Japan. Japan's amendment to their constitution is China's worst nightmare.
So the question now is, what are they going to do about it....because they sure as hell aren't going to do nothing. Will they step up their obsessive rhetoric, or pulls their heads in?
I tip the former, and Japan won't tolerate it for much longer. And nor will all the other countries that China's currently bullying.
I don't think China's going to retreat from their bullshit stance on matters everything so hold on to your hats......because the shit's soon going to hit the fan.
This is just my opinion, based on what I see. China's new regime definitely has a game plan, and Japan's move to be able to do more than just defend their own backyard isn't part of it.
