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Q: Does new visa rule apply for subject teachers in China ?

As most of you heard , there are some news related to new visa rules in China. I would like to ask if visa rules will change for subject teachers in China starting from April 2017 or not. I would like to know nationality restrictions for English teachers ,math teachers, science teachers according to the new visa rule (April 2017).

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The new rules apply to everyone from general managers to Filipino ayis.

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yes

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Why wouldn't it? They're highly paid, so they should be held to a higher standard not a lower standard

thelatinodancer:

I agree that standards should be higher . However , having a passport from English speaking country does not guarantee high standards of math, science teaching. 

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Englteachted:

Subject teachers teach in English  and teach a higher level of English (technical terms) so of course they're not gonna be exempt from tougher restrictions.

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thelatinodancer:

Dear English teacher who has no skills except speaking her mother language ,

 

We will see on April 2017.

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LatinoDancer: I'm not on this board fretting over the new laws. You are. And I have no skills but you do?

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You just guess and talk nonsense . You are one of the trolls!!

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Visa policy applies to ALL foreign workers. 

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The new rules apply to everyone from general managers to Filipino ayis.

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So what is the rule for subject teachers on April 2017 ?

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the same as for all foreign workers in China

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thelatinodancer:

How can it be same for someone who wants to be a domestic worker and someone who wants to be a subject teacher in China ? I just want to know if you need to have a passport from English speaking countries to teach math or science in China starting from April 2017 ? I asked the same question to many agents. Everybody is telling something different.

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It's the same because despite occupying different positions both subject teachers and house helpers are foreign. The requirements are different and entirely depend on the empoyer but the rules are the same (have a full time gig in China, no criminal record in your country and qualifications/experience). Why would it be any different for subject teachers? You may think way too highly of your position, subject teachers are closer to the bottom of the ladder with house helpers than to the top with senior corporate managers.

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thelatinodancer:

Rules are not same. For example only teachers from English speaking countries will be able to get a visa starting from April 2017 . However , ayis don't need to be from English speaking countries to work in China .

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I just want to know if you need to have a passport from English speaking countries to teach math or science in China starting from April 2017 ? I asked the same question to many agents. Everybody is telling something different.

ironman510:

Yes, if you are working in China, it doesn't matter if you were say a math teacher, now your degree would NOT have to be earned in an English speaking country because you are not teaching ESL. But you would still need to go through the new ABC Talent Visa deal and yes China might refuse your application based on where you are from. They are picky on passports these days.

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http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2016/11/25/obtaining-a-z-visa-work-pe... China’s New Unified Foreign Work PermitPosted on November 25, 2016 by   

By Dezan Shira & Associates
Editor: Ari Chernoff

Editor’s note: This article was originally published on May 17, 2012, and has been updated to include the latest regulatory changes.

On November 1, 2016, China’s State Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs (SAFEA) launched the new unified work permit in select regions across the country. The limited release targets the regions of Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Anhui, Guangdong, Hebei, Shandong, Sichuan, and Ningxia, as the government seeks to gauge the program’s success before the nationwide rollout on April 1, 2017.

China’s previous foreign work permits, the Alien Employment Permit (Z-visa) and the Foreign Expert Permit (R-visa), have been integrated into the Permit System for Foreigners in China, a single work permit based on a three-tiered classification system. The permit provides a federal model administered by SAFEA, eliminating the often troublesome and inconsistent regionally administered policies.

 

The three-tiered system classifies foreign workers as A, B, or C level candidates. The classification system takes into account candidates’ education, salary level, age, time spent working in China, and Chinese language skills. Applicants who receive more than 85 points are given the letter “A,” 60 to 85 points, “B,” and less than 60 points, “C.”

Application requirements

The Chinese government deems that all applicants should meet the following requirements:

  • Be at least 18 years of age
  • Be in good health
  • Have no criminal record
  • Have a commitment from a legal employer
  • Have the professional skills necessary to do the work, or a corresponding degree

Application procedure

The following steps outline the application process and the required documents for foreign workers and their employers under the new work permit.

Step 1: Apply online

The first step in the application process is completed by the employer in China. An employer looking to hire a non-Chinese employee can submit an application, along with the relevant documents online on the management system for foreign workers in China (only in Chinese).” The required documents for submission are as follows:

  • Application form
  • Business license and organization code certificate
  • Social insurance registration or certificate of registration of the resident representative office of foreign enterprise
  • Information such as the name, ID, and phone number of the foreign worker
  • Power of Attorney
  • Identity of the employer or manager

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Step 2: Online pre-qualification

Within five working days of the online submission, the receiving agency will make an examination of the materials submitted by the employer. If the foreign worker is coming from abroad, they should apply for the “Work Permit for Aliens of the People’s Republic of China” (Often referred to simply as the “Work Permit for Foreigners in China”) no later than 15 days after entry. If the materials submitted by the employer contain errors or are incomplete, the receiving agency will offer the employer one chance to correct the relevant materials.

Step 3: Verification of the employer’s application

If the employer’s application meets the requirements, a special seal will be issued by the administrative organ, including its signature and the date when the employer’s application was verified.

Step 4: Review

After the employer’s application has been verified, the decision-making body will review the materials and make a decision within 10 working days to accept or decline the employer’s request to hire a foreign worker. If the agency decides to accept the employer’s application, then the employee can formally apply for the “Work Permit for Aliens of the People’s Republic of China.” The following documentation is required for the application:

  • “Work Permit for Aliens of the People’s Republic of China” application form
  • Proof of previous work experience
  • Certificates of highest level of education
  • Official proof of no criminal record from country of permanent residence
  • Medical certificate
  • Employment contract or other proof of employment
  • Passport or other travel document
  • A photo from the last six months in which the applicant is bareheaded

Step 5: Final decision

If the applicant meets the conditions for the work permit, the agency will grant the administrative license, create an electronic “Notice on Work Permit for Aliens,” and offer the applicant the Foreign Work Permit within 10 days of their final decision.

If an applicant is not accepted, they can apply for reconsideration, or bring an administrative lawsuit against the licensing authority.

Conclusion

With the new work permit ready to rollout nationwide on April 1, 2017, interested parties would do well to track the relevant regulations and circulars as they are promulgated by the Chinese government in case of any alterations.

As seen above, much of the application requirements for foreign workers are completed by their potential employer. Only when the employer’s submission has been examined, verified, reviewed, and accepted, can a foreign worker officially apply for the “Work Permit for Aliens of the People’s Republic of China.”

 

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The new rules are for everyone from CEO's to Maids.

thelatinodancer:

Maids need a degree from English speaking country with your logic.

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ironman510:

Lol! That's what people here are trying to tell you, "logic"  It's logical you are also apart of the new visa deal. Why wouldn't you be? Why even post such a question? You wouldn't get suck replies.

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Obviously you are clueless about new visa rules.

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I didn't claim that I am except from new visa rules. However, there are different visa restrictions for English teachers and subject teachers. Somehow , your peanut "logic" refuses to understand that. You just make assumptions that subject teachers must be natives. 

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Rules are not same for everyone ! You are just so ignorant !!! How can rules be same for everyone ? 

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@ironman510 - Moreover maids need to be from English speaking country with your logic.

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Good, you learned how to use the "Add Comment" option, you're getting better man. I will give you a Thumb Up. ^-^

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Who cares about you and your thumbs up ?

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I hope so, than we'd really give Chinese maids a run for their money.

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latinodancer: Boy is my face red. Just did some reading on the DT's twitter feed. And stated very clearly that there is an exception.

Teachers meeting the following requirements are exempt from the regulations:

1. Working in the city you work or will work

2. From the country and city you're from

3. Teaching the subject you teach

4. Teachers who walk in your shoes

If you meet all, you are exempt from all visa requirements. 

You got the answer you wanted

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5. A teacher with logic that he logically specializes in.

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It is good to see that you are trying to be funny with your low iq. Even many agents are not sure about the new rules and you are talking here like the authority. 

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 There's comma missing after the word 'Boy' .....

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What about non-natives teaching jobs under the new rules?

 

According to the rules, non-natives will not be able to teach, however, for the implementation it is unclear whether non-natives will have a certain license for language teaching. There are some schools and school districts that can provide non-natives job opportunities legally if they have a degree from a native speaking country. 

 

If a non-native wishes to teach a course delivered in English but is not a language course, such as Math, Economics, Business, etc. and their degree is not in education it will be accepted but they will need a bachelor’s degree and 2 years of teaching related experience OR they can have their experience waved with a teaching license or TEFL certificate.

 

source: http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8pT5oLBDmtISFknrhptpbA

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3.    Certificate of No Criminal Record. Issued by court, police, security department, public notary, national level (e.g. FBI) of applicant’s home country – 

Situation 1 - US Citizen but last year stayed in Singapore then, the report comes from Singapore. 

Situation 2 - If China holding a non-work visa then from home country, would apply.

 

 

I hope this is true as it would save us a lot of hassle and time to get our criminal check done here in China because we only stayed in China during our 1 year contract on a working visa.. I know the office in China to get this.

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Seems like Xi'an will still give work permits for non-native English teachers as long as they have a bachelors from an English speaking country. 

 

http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/pl4qKydz5XfYeJjv9qq_XQ

 

 

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Thumbs up for every trolls and everyone who were guessing and thinking that they were the authority ! I just want to tell you to just ...uck off!!!

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Where is the troll "englishted"?

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Someone should try! then tell us what happens

icnif77:

i-Wolf wrote on another thread, there are no changes at getting new FEC and things.

http://answers.echinacities.com/question/did-you-find-best-visa-april-1st-info-here-it?type=alatest#answer000

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