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Q: After 4 years of service my boss is making my school transfer hard

Merry Christmas everyone,

     well 2 days ago I finished my 4th year with my school. Due to the 5 year rule, I have had to find a new job. All was great a leaving party and eveything, Promises of no problems with my release letter and documents. Slowly things are turning bad. Now he is saying he will only give me the documents once I have let him cancel my residency permit. My new school have told me not to allow him to do this. I would have to leave China. I can see things getting very nasty ( no employee (Chinese or foreign) have ever left this company with what they are due. I thought I was different and he actually liked me. I have seen the release letter and recommendation letter, We are just waiting for the cancelation letter from my foreign expert certificate. I know there will be problems coming. My plan of action is to contact the SAFEA and the PSB (poilce security Bereau , Be very polite and just ask for advice. If any of you have any ideas please let me know. I have new for many years when I left it would be a massive f.... up. Cheers

8 weeks 5 days ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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you should also post the name of this employer on any and all ex-pat sites as a place to avoid.

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Hi everyone,

                     wow it was a crazy few weeks for those who followed this story. I appreciate all the help you gave me. What has happened since I last posted is.

I had to cancel the residency permit, I am in He nan province(not the capital) and the police here will demand you cancel the residency permit if they know you are leaving the school. I have been given 15 days to leave China. ( I tried for 30 days but  the school chooses).

   So no choice but to go through the Z visa again. I needed a Criminal record check from the UK. A scanned copy was good enough. I got this within 7 days of applying. So now my Z visa will be ready in 14 days, but my residency permit extension expires in maybe 10 days. So a short vacation in Hong Kong is ahead of me. I start my new job on February 4th.

   Just waiting for payment and the useless release and recommendation letters etc etc.etc, I will keep them as souvenirs.

 

I can help with anyone needing a UK criminal record check too. I will make a separate thread on how to do this. It was very very easy to do.

 

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good to see it worked out.

are you going to name the school you left as a warning to others?

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Name and shame please. And post it as a question headed with the school's name so it turn up in search results.

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Yes I will name and shame the school once I get my Z visa.

Icniff,

There was no termination of contract it expired. The Foreign Expert Bereau  helped a lot. They called my boss and made him explain everything to me. Now my Chinese is not very good, but I understood what was happening at the police station. I was demanding 30 days stay on my residency permit and waving the contract at the policewomen and showing her my new job offer from my new school. She rang the PSB policeman who said it can only be decided by my school. My boss called me and said he had to ask for 15 days the policeman wanted to give me 10 days.

    The police have cracked down hard on the schools recently here. From what I seen the other day cancelling my residency permit. It was the policeman who was making it difficult. I even heard him telling the school manager that next time it can't be 15 days it has to be 10.

    This is all very stupid because no one will ever come to work in this province. So if you work in He nan there will be no way of changing jobs. Even a school to school in the same province. The same company too . Maybe this is all nonsense. It just doesn't make sense.

     Really if I understand it correctly. You/your school  never need to tell the PSB you are leaving, just move and transfer residency permits. If the police find out they can make it very awkward for you . And in this city/province that is what they are saying they are going to do.

    In the end my new school, just said do what they want. They are blaming my old boss for telling the PSB it is a stab in the back for me.

     I am still unsure of how and why things worked out this way.....

I do have another problem lol ..... I have never done the z visa in Hong Kong dash..... Any good links on here ....

 

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in shanghai, Police check needs to be certified by FCO from UK then Chinese Embassy in the UK before it will be accept in China. Same with the degree.....

 

The government is really making things diffcult. 

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