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Q: Any suggestion on how to improve Chinese education system?

For the benefit of foreigners and for China to begin to attract more and more foreigners to come to study in China, what do you think Chinese government should to so as to improve their education system for foreigners benefit?

starting from the lectures, accommodation, social life, university life experience etc etc. so as to meet the US and UK standards. what do you think China can do to as an expart who know a lot about Chinese education system and know about your own country's education system, the pros and the cons. thanks

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They could outsource the education system to Taiwan. Or Japan...

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US and UK standard?Ur kidding me.My sister went to US high school and it was like going back to middle school...and besides, do u know on which basis universities are ranked? Do u really believe that UK and US have the best universities?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate

get real dude

easyrider:

North Korean ones are known for their prestige too.

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xinyuren:

As a fact, US and UK do indeed have the best Universities.  You see, illiterate people don't go to college.  Maybe you forgot that little fact. (did you go to college? did you see any illiterate students or Reading classes?) US & UK have most of the finest universities in the world. This is an unquestionable fact that's not even worth arguing.

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tomcatflyer:

If you think they are so bad please answer this. Why do most Chinese, who have enough money, want to send their children to these "terrible" establishments. Could it be they know the truth, that these are really fine institutions.

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Chhrischina:

for the same reason many Chinese parents or lets say  "English " schools would rather employ a Russians  or an Italian English teacher rather than an Afro-American or Americans of Asian descent. FACE, reputation, which not always means QUALITY. And this has nothing to do with the overall educational system in US which appereantly doesnt work that good if most of US top university students, those who graduate, are foreigners and not americans. 

 

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Amonk:

Chhrischina is a troll account from a 4channer, just ignore him.

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Just about everyone in China knows the problems with the education system but the government has a little conundrum.  If they really improve the system the way they know it should be improved, the ambitions of the citizens will become a danger to the state.  The reason the education system is the way it is, is because they need sheep.  Tear down the sheep factory, and you will have a thinking, striving society that won't put up with this sh@t that's being forced down their throats.

 

That being said, how can the sheep change the sheep factory?  Not possible.  In order to truly change, foreign experts need to come in and head a new program.  That will never happen because of face.  So...

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I forgot where I heard it, but in a comparison between China and India (topic was emerging economies) one of the big differences was. "In Indian schools, Children asks questions"

 

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...and that's what makes the difference bringing the great deal of value to the education...in India, not in China, of course. 

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The day that there are some foreigners as principals, vice principals or deans in some schools or universities you will know that things have changed (and I don't mean international schools). So far I've only heard of one foreigner being made VP of a university and he was born in China anyway. Yes there would be language problems but aren't all students learning English?

 

What's wrong (don't get me started)?: rote learning, lack of creative and imaginative thinking, 100% reliance on the final middle school exam for university entry, one size fits all, cheating, bribery, guanxi

 

For English: lack of a speaking test in CET & TEM - so why bother with oral English?

 

and that's the short list!

 

meanwhile Chinese will continue to "vote with their feet" and study overseas if they can afford it.

 

 

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I have a list of ideas and urgent  needs for change starting with the kindergarten and going through all the educational system in this Country. But it's not about my needs it's about this Country need for a change. As long as they think "this is China", it ain't matter what I or us as foreigners think about their educational system. 

I nonetheless found that some personal efforts have brought green sprouts where I work and teachers, very little or little more have added to their understanding my suggestions and ideas especially because I worked together with the principle. She wouldn't admit that I was right but I suspect she would come up with them as though it was her ideas and that made possible little changes. It is this sort of efforts that we foreigner teachers should put together with the Chinese teachers and let them think it's their ideas so that you can enjoy the change you look for. 

Nevertheless, changing the educational system as mentioned by op to get it in line with the UK and other democratic countries it won't be possible. As already mentioned by xinyuren, that would be dangerous. China is not a democracy. 

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