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Q: Are age limitations for the employment of foreign teachers strictly adhered to.strictly adhered to

My understanding is there are age limitations for foreign teachers obtaining a Z visa and work permit to legally teach in Chinese schools.

Are these limitations Chinese law or rules and are they strictly adhered to or can a older foreign teacher be employed in a Chinese school under certain conditions?

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Ignore the answer above. The maximum age limit for getting a work permit is generally 60 though Shanghai and Beijing have recently relaxed this for "high level talents" (so NOT ESL teachers).

 

http://www.pinsentmasons.com/ELP/Horizon%20Watching%20China_Legal%20Upda...

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Unfortunately can't quickly find the official government link.

icnif77:

That's great link 'hottie' .

 

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The Notice provides requirement to be met by the foreign employees. Under this Notice, the age of the foreign employee shall not exceed 60 years old in principle and the foreign employee should be a bachelor degree holder with at least two years of relevant working experience, though the requirement on age and working experience can be relaxed for experts urgently required in Beijing. But the new rule explicitly stipulates that those engaging in education and teaching work in pre-nursery education institutions, primary and secondary schools, international schools and other education training institutions should have teaching qualification certificates issued by their own country and those engaging in language teaching work should possess internationally recognized language teaching qualification certificate if without teaching qualification certificates issued by their own country. 

 

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Thanks.  One thing I've noticed on a lot of teaching ads is a limit of 55....I assume this is so thta the school can get a couple of years employment out of the teacher.

 

This 60 year-old limit is going to be difficult for a lot of foriegn workers here, including myself. I won't get my Uk state pension until I'm 67......so need to work out how I support myself for 7 years......

 

Though the 60 is based on current Chinese retirement ages and the government is discussing increasing these in the next couple of years to deal with an ageing population and increasing pensions bill.

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You could maybe part-time on wifey's visa after 60 years old.

I've never paid attention to 60 years limit for (teaching) Z visa, but there was thread here about similar thing: OP was asking, how to extend RP, after 60th BD or something similar. School was interested for extension, but then was something about mandatory insurance, I don't recall what.

I suggested, 'offer to the school, you'll cover insurance cost by yourself.'

 

But, then age limit is requirement for Z.

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Yep....there is always the wifey visa! Bit then they might also have reduce the D-visa requirements enough T by then so I can get one (and pigs might fly!)

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 You should hit 'edit' button, considering my latest research -ing

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60-years age limit isn't requirement for Z visa/Working permit as I ( edit: 'don't') understand.

 

Age limit is based on employer's mandatory Health insurance for foreigners (teachers), which became much more expensive, if applied to FT older than 60y.

I can't tell, how age limit is applied at employment in China, but I guess it is very difficult to even get School's reply to CV of FT older than 60 years.

I'd say, it would be possible to convince School to renew employment of FT over 60-y old by offering to cover insurance cost by FT. Just my guess!

icnif77:

OK loo:

 

https://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/visa/work.htm

 

China Work Visa (Z)

 
 

 

A work visa is required for persons wanting to work in China for pay.  It is also issued to aliens who come to China for commercial entertainment performance. It is only granted if you and the employer meet certain requirements.  First, the organisation must be accredited to employ foreigners. You must meet the requirements as a 'foreign expert' and the employer must obtain a certificate stating that you comply. The most common employment is teaching English for which the minimum qualifications are stated as having English as a first language and having at least a Bachelors degree and two year teaching experience. The age limit for male applicants is 18 - 60, and 18 - 55 for female applicants. However, there is some flexibility in these requirements so if you can find a willing employer they still have a chance of obtaining approvals for you.

The employer will send you a government issued Employment Permit and Visa Notification Letter which you must submit with a photocopies with your application. Accompanying family members should apply for new S1 or S2 visa submitting invitation letter from the relative with work Z in China and a 'proof of relationship'  i.e. their marriage certificate for a spouse, or birth certificate for a child.

 

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Hotwater:

The flexibility depends on individual province & city rules. Generally it's 60 though I did say BJ & SH had been relaxing theirs for high level talents. No editing needed on my answer below 

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First sentence, only!

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Ignore the answer above. The maximum age limit for getting a work permit is generally 60 though Shanghai and Beijing have recently relaxed this for "high level talents" (so NOT ESL teachers).

 

http://www.pinsentmasons.com/ELP/Horizon%20Watching%20China_Legal%20Upda...

Page 4.

 

Unfortunately can't quickly find the official government link.

icnif77:

That's great link 'hottie' .

 

excerpt:

 

The Notice provides requirement to be met by the foreign employees. Under this Notice, the age of the foreign employee shall not exceed 60 years old in principle and the foreign employee should be a bachelor degree holder with at least two years of relevant working experience, though the requirement on age and working experience can be relaxed for experts urgently required in Beijing. But the new rule explicitly stipulates that those engaging in education and teaching work in pre-nursery education institutions, primary and secondary schools, international schools and other education training institutions should have teaching qualification certificates issued by their own country and those engaging in language teaching work should possess internationally recognized language teaching qualification certificate if without teaching qualification certificates issued by their own country. 

 

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Hotwater:

Thanks.  One thing I've noticed on a lot of teaching ads is a limit of 55....I assume this is so thta the school can get a couple of years employment out of the teacher.

 

This 60 year-old limit is going to be difficult for a lot of foriegn workers here, including myself. I won't get my Uk state pension until I'm 67......so need to work out how I support myself for 7 years......

 

Though the 60 is based on current Chinese retirement ages and the government is discussing increasing these in the next couple of years to deal with an ageing population and increasing pensions bill.

7 years 50 weeks ago
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icnif77:

You could maybe part-time on wifey's visa after 60 years old.

I've never paid attention to 60 years limit for (teaching) Z visa, but there was thread here about similar thing: OP was asking, how to extend RP, after 60th BD or something similar. School was interested for extension, but then was something about mandatory insurance, I don't recall what.

I suggested, 'offer to the school, you'll cover insurance cost by yourself.'

 

But, then age limit is requirement for Z.

7 years 50 weeks ago
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Hotwater:

Yep....there is always the wifey visa! Bit then they might also have reduce the D-visa requirements enough T by then so I can get one (and pigs might fly!)

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 You should hit 'edit' button, considering my latest research -ing

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