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Q: are there iluminatis or freemasons in china?
do they also take part in building a new world oder?
That sounds like a fancy aftershave: A New World Odor, by Illuminati. The scent of power, the scent of desire. For the man who wants everything.
Spray it on your balls.
Yeh, I didn't need that last bit, did I? I should have just left it at 'For the man who wants everything'.
i was a free mason in the states, still keep up my dues, shriner, grand commandery, royal arch, scottish rite, guess that makes me an anarchist but we all have our faults.
mattsm84:
Hey, my Grandfather was a free mason and I'd never understood the conspiracy theories that always surround that organization. All it really means is that you go to a lot of barbecues and network with a bunch of middle aged upper middle class types and talk about what a great time the Korean War was.
Who have you been talking to? There is no such thing as the Illuminati. Forget you ever heard the name. Do not adjust your television sets, there is nothing wrong with the picture.... 
Secret societies in a one-party state?
Really?
You think so?
You mean is there an organization of people that determines public behind closed doors without any real public oversight? Have you ever even heard of Communism?
They are firmly entrenched in Chinese society, as the real driving force behind China's industrialisation, economic rise and eventual collapse.
This collapse will bring about the collapse of the CCP and Chinese society, allowing them to rebuild and reshape China the way they want it. They way they have always wanted it.
They use multinational companies as their external facade, and these companies will become the real and overwhelming power in China. This has been the plan since day 1.
They use the names Freemasons and illuminati as a distraction, so no one will know who is really in control of the world. They will control China eventually, just as they control every other developed nation and great power on earth. They always have, and always will.
We will never know who they are, but they will always be there.
Of course, I could be wrong.
