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Q: Are we allowed to ask about and discuss the $2.7 Billion?

Just want to know our limits here guys. Where was this money found and how did the TImes find out about it?  Maybe if we don't mention names we can talk about it?

11 years 22 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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all bigshot chinese and all bigshot americans are crooked ..............    in order to get rich, one must step on some toes...... i.e. take somebody else's money.... or once in a while invent something (i.e. Bill Gates).........  but mostly it is rob somebody else.     

AdamE:

Not fair to say everyone who is rich is crooked. But in general I think you're correct....it usually takes a certain type of person to get to that amount of success and one treat they all seem to have is when it comes to business they are very cut throat.   Not that it's a bad thing but it typically results in other people getting screwed over in the process or taken advantage of or people hooking up only friends and people close to them.

11 years 22 weeks ago
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nevermind:

There's a difference between being a scumbag business man and stealing billions from tax coffers and then when the media tells the people, outlawing the story.

11 years 21 weeks ago
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crimochina:

you are wrong. i will give you an example. mitt romney is filthy rich. everyone knows he is filthy rich and everyone knows how and where his money came from. he did bad things like gutting companies and sendingf jobs to china. but we all are free to read about it and discuss it. where did his family get the 2.7 bil from? why can't the people of china know this? why can't they know where he got it from?  do you see the difference? 

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Wow, you brought up another good point... How you get your wealth determines your status in the West but just having the wealth in the East is what counts - no matter how you acquired it.

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Frankly, of course!

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Many talk about the 2.7 billion, and by the way, it has been claimed by some big honchos that it is not true, no one of those mentioned has a penny on their names.  But buried in the news release, there was another piece of information that no one has mentioned yet.,  and it was that one that will become a big honcho next year already has around $ 300 million abroad, and surprising, not on his name but also under he names of wife and children.  Will not forget that, let's see how it grows in the next 11 years.

Frankly_Speaking:

Thanks for the history, but is echinacities doing the censoring or is external editing at play here?

11 years 21 weeks ago
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HappyExPat:

It is just an educated guess, but I feel eChinacities is self censoring some posts to avoid "others" to black list the site and block it from viewers in China. And to me, it is understandable to do so.

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Good point HappyExpat.  But I am surprised this thread has not been deleted already. Could this be a sign of progress?  How long before we can discuss what really happened to Bo XiLai before we get zapped?  And how does it work... does echinacities censor themselves or do they get one of those omnious phone calls from the ivory towers?

HappyExPat:

I do feel it has stayed on because there is no close monitoring. As I have mentioned before, I had a website and forum on China, and as a matter of policy we were self censored, to avoid being banned. We had many followers, both local and foreigners, and we knew we were monitored, so any political or religious comments were deleted by me to avoid being censored or removed from the Internet. It did work, because we ran for many years before it was closed down by one of the owners. The previous, more explicit post, ran for over 24 hours before it was removed, together with the one from The Dude.

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Frankly_Speaking:

Thanks for the history ExPat but is it echinacities doing the censoring or is it external editing at play here?  I hope it is the latter.

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Whatever. Just throw me a bone to chew on while you rant.

 
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I guess this thread answers your question OP!

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