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Q: A camp for 4 year old transgenders?
Google it, a video is making its way as an ad.
When it comes to everything it seems widely accepted that children are too young to make life changing decisions for themselves (marriage, tattoos, cosmetic surgery) but these animals are trying to rope in 4 years to get them thinking they're transgender just for their political agenda.
How can you defend it?
6 years 35 weeks ago in Transport & Travel - China
I'm sorry, but this is insane. I blame overly PC parents who are inferring a level of maturity on their kids that is above the children's actual comprehension.
When my sister was 4, she wanted to be a boy. She dressed, acted, and called herself "Hank." Was she transgender? No. She was a kid, a "tomboy,"
Englteachted:
Exactly, now a phase turns into a permanent change. Parents are doing this for themselves not the kids. They want to be like the celebs on TV who show off their sons dressed like girls and daughters dressed like boys
ambivalentmace:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/summer-camps-open-bunks-to-transgender-jews/
We need to be fair and balanced and tolerant and all of those goody goody emotional love thy neighbor diatribes, so here is a Jewish transgender camp in the great state of New Jersey.
ambivalentmace:
http://michaelbaisden.com/san-francisco-400week-transgender-day-camp-kids-young-4/
400 dollars a week, ouch!! changing your sex is expensive, must be a rich rebellious culture thang. Lazy journalists, the camp open in 2015 and it took 2 years to make the news or it would not be a good story with the black nazarene in office and nobody would have read the story.
ambivalentmace:
If you are a 4 year old contemplating suicide please use our website or call our hot line.
We love you more than your parents. Don't forget the first commandment of our God "HILLARY", It takes a village to raise children, not your parents, we know what is best for you.
ambivalentmace:
https://apnews.com/4e21eb4422c14ef3984dc25dad345ef8
Here is the original story from AP.
https://factn.org/californias-transgender-summer-day-camp-4-year-olds/
San Francisco, that explains a lot.
ambivalentmace:
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/transgender-day-camp-include-year-olds-49072690
ambivalentmace:
From a purely theoretical perspective here, if we have deprived children as young as 2 their real sexual identity, whatever that means, what happen to all the people over the thousands of years that did not get this chance and was it the cause of all society's evils in the world.
so we can have world peace, no war, universal love, just ask every baby, do you want your penis or would you like something else. spit once for yes and twice for no. good job baby whatever you are.wtf.
Englteachted:
Babies at that age have yet to fully form their personality, they are shaping it for them. Disgusting
Shining_brow:
"Babies at that age have yet to fully form their personality, they are shaping it for them. Disgusting"
Ummm - parents do that anyway.... these parents are just shaping it in a way you don't approve of.
I'm sorry, but this is insane. I blame overly PC parents who are inferring a level of maturity on their kids that is above the children's actual comprehension.
When my sister was 4, she wanted to be a boy. She dressed, acted, and called herself "Hank." Was she transgender? No. She was a kid, a "tomboy,"
Englteachted:
Exactly, now a phase turns into a permanent change. Parents are doing this for themselves not the kids. They want to be like the celebs on TV who show off their sons dressed like girls and daughters dressed like boys
ambivalentmace:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/summer-camps-open-bunks-to-transgender-jews/
We need to be fair and balanced and tolerant and all of those goody goody emotional love thy neighbor diatribes, so here is a Jewish transgender camp in the great state of New Jersey.
ambivalentmace:
http://michaelbaisden.com/san-francisco-400week-transgender-day-camp-kids-young-4/
400 dollars a week, ouch!! changing your sex is expensive, must be a rich rebellious culture thang. Lazy journalists, the camp open in 2015 and it took 2 years to make the news or it would not be a good story with the black nazarene in office and nobody would have read the story.
ambivalentmace:
If you are a 4 year old contemplating suicide please use our website or call our hot line.
We love you more than your parents. Don't forget the first commandment of our God "HILLARY", It takes a village to raise children, not your parents, we know what is best for you.
ambivalentmace:
https://apnews.com/4e21eb4422c14ef3984dc25dad345ef8
Here is the original story from AP.
Ha Ha. I didn't realize I wanted sex until I was 14.Ehen I was 12, a 13 year old girl asked me if I wanted to F... At the time I didn't know what she ment. So I asked "what is F..." She said "it's when you make babies" Wow I thought I didn't want a baby! My mother just had a baby last year, and another last month. They cry and the diapers have to be changed. Maybe that's why I did't want sex till I was a little older. But my point is: kids are not developed enough to figure this out, mentally or physically, until there at least 11 years old.
There is a possibility this is a circular news fake story.
Ambis link to some strange site quotes fox as the source. Fox says AP contributed. The fox story is dated August 11th.
A quick BIng... same story on Breitbart. Dated August 8th.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/08/preschoolers-attend-s...
Where did Breitbart get the story...they say AP... click... NY post. Date August 7th.
http://nypost.com/2017/08/07/transgender-day-camp-welcomes-preschoolers/
The NYP also says the original story is from the AP.
Bing again. Shit. AP is beyond the great firewall. I just binged it. Associated Press + story name. Wait, I can get AP without a VPN. I can even search it. But the search is blocked.
Anyone with a vpn that can help trace this story to the source? I don't have one.
I don't doubt that the story is true. But it's path to ECC does look a bit dodgy.
And with each step, the outrage escalates.
ScotsAlan:
Put it this way.
I used to live in a village where I had to walk past 5 pubs to get home.
If I had a story to tell, in what pub would the story be most factual 
ScotsAlan:
I found the website for the camp.
http://www.rainbowdaycamp.org/
Lets have a look, and see if I should be foam snarling outraged.
ScotsAlan:
Love it.
What a great concept.
Many of us have sexual identification issues when we hit puberty. This organization not only deals with the confused teens, it also helps prepare the parents in case their kids go to the "Devils side".
I am not outraged at all. I feel sort of warm and furry inside. I feel love for these folk who are teaching inclusion and not expulsion.
And it seems AP had no article about this place.
I got AP search to work. No results. Maybe I put in the wrong words.
CIrcle of news. Lazy journalists. I can debunk it without a VPN, from China, in the time it takes me to drink 1.5 pints of TIger.
ambivalentmace:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/medical/article/Transgender-day-camp-among-first-to-include-11738643.php
a liberal san francisco paper newstory
ambivalentmace:
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/07/california-transgender-camp-teaches-kids-they-are-not-alone/
a liberal denver post story
ambivalentmace:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article165798407.html
a liberal sacramento newspaper story
ambivalentmace:
All of these dumb lazy journalists from liberal cities did not check sources and published this fake news.
Perhaps Trump was right, journalist are stupid, don't check sources and can't be trusted to print facts in their newpapers.
It reminds me of a conservative talk show host in Atlanta Neil Boortz who is famous for these comments " people who can't do a real job become educators and teachers, people too stupid to do this correctly become journalists". It seems he was right.
ambivalentmace:
http://wkrn.com/2017/08/07/at-transgender-camp-children-as-young-as-4-find-safe-space/
ambivalentmace:
i checked with a vpn the supposed AP story, it's not there, but a link from the school below has it linked to AP.
ambivalentmace:
http://www.rainbowdaycamp.org/the-team
it's not publicly funded with taxes, so I have no problem with it, no government interference, i may not approve of parents brainwashing their children, but it is much better than the government doing it.
ambivalentmace:
https://apnews.com/4e21eb4422c14ef3984dc25dad345ef8
Finally found it but it was linked from the school website,On the school website, click "about" tab and then "news" tab and it comes up with the link. The article comes up without a VPN, interesting.
This is a classic example of right wing circular news. It is well funded, and it false.
Maybe someone did contact them for advice about their 4 year old. But that is in the ether now.
I could dig deeper with this school. It's says it is non profit. Who pays?
It could be Christians. It might be Soros. Maybe Mormons. Maybe they want to sell parents a cure for gayness. I have no idea. I have dug deep enough for this thread.
Without a doubt there are parents out there who want a gay or transgender kid as a cute accessory. And those parents are nutters. And we should be outraged at them.
Sexuality should not be forced.
And this school should not be condemned because some unknown person perhaps suggested they convert their 4 year old into a trendy designer transgender child. If such a child exists.
This story has no source. And the organization you foam at, are actually doing a fucking good job.
Their own words
At check-in each day, campers make a nametag with their pronoun of choice. Some opt for "she" or "he." Or a combination of "she/he." Or "they," or no pronoun at all. Some change their name or pronouns daily, to see what feels right.
The camp in the San Francisco Bay Area city of El Cerrito caters to transgender and "gender fluid" children, ages 4 to 12, making it one of the only camps of its kind in the world open to preschoolers, experts say. Enrollment has tripled to about 60 young campers since it opened three summers ago, with kids coming from as far as Los Angeles, Washington, D.C. - even Africa. Plans are underway to open a branch next summer in Colorado, and the camp has been contacted by parents and organizations in Atlanta, Seattle, Louisiana and elsewhere interested in setting up similar programs.
On a sunny July morning at camp
ScotsAlan:
Sounds good to me. A commercial enterprise in the free market, catering to a certain group of parents and children. Selling a dream. Are you against the free market?
Englteachted:
First you said they were not doing what I said they were doing, now you're arguing sth else. There are limits, Business Ethics 101, do no harm . If your business is turning 4 year olds in to transgenders before they reach an age where they can decide for themselves. Cigarettes are not sold to children. You make zero sense at all
The original source..
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/transgender-day-camp-include-y...
Acording to ambi and Ted.
Source AP.
Again. Same author.
right... JOCELYN GECKER
source....
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRANSGENDER_DAY_CAMP?SITE=IADE...
August 7th. one published article... this one. The source code.
Englteachted:
Which argument? It's not true or it's ok? How can it be both?
ambivalentmace:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocelyngecker
your kind of lady ALAN, graduate of the American University of Paris, a good socialist writer, also a good feminist since she never got laid while working in Thailand as a journalists also went to Columbia University, same place the last jackass living in public housing at 1600 pennsylvania avenue graduated from. I almost forgot she writes for Salon, the liberal bible of progressives, I mean this in the newpaper that every homosexual male couple in San Francisco uses for the bird droppings in their feeder cages with parrots named punter and bunter.
Touch a nerve?
Not at all Spider.
Just an hour of research to debunk a myth. HuffPost had a similar story today about a summer camp teaching Republican kids to be snipers. I declined to click. But I am sure there are loads of summer schools for preppers kids. That's up to them. I am sure they have great fun eating the meals Alex Jones sells them.
But, if someone posted a link to that HuffPost story here, to enrage lefties and inflate huffy puffy feminine lefty transgender chests, then I would likely have a go at debunking that too.
My transgender chest is fantastic by the way. The best one ever. I can huff it, puff it, and I show it off at gay pride parades because the American Bible Belt tax payer paid for it. Yup.. I am a Brit man with a transgender chest that the US of A paid for.
God bless you President Obama. You made my dreams come true.
The above story is a good source for a Fox News story.
My USA transgender chest will be world famous this time next week if someone sends this post to Breitbart 
ambivalentmace:
did you get the name of the sniper school, i need to enroll my daughter when she is 8 yrs old.
Mama, mama, I'm afraid my teacher told me I might turn into a boy, I don't want to be a boy mama, help me mama.
Great enlightened educators with no regard for unintended psychological consequences of their bullshit beliefs shoved down the throat of children.
and so it begins, a first grader did not call a creature the proper pronoun
he,she,it, whatever
unintended consequences that nobody cared about for the sake of political correctness
Just think of all the suffering people through out the centuries that did not have this new policy and how many first graders became criminals for centuries because they called some one the wrong gender. How did society survive?
ambivalentmace:
It's not even a pronoun error, dumbass journalists, the boy changing to a girl now had a girls name and the student did not know, what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Stiggs:
The world is going insane.
I find it hard to believe a young kid would care about an innocent mistake like being called by the name they had a year ago unless the adults in their life had put them up to it and taught them the victim mentality.
And the school... unless the child was bullying the other kid or something why make a big deal of it? The teacher could have just said 'hey Betty, your friend Robert is called Roberta now' and I'm sure Betty would have just said 'oh, ok then' and Betty and Roberta would carry on as they always had.
Now Betty is probably too scared to have anything to do with Roberta because she is highly strung, over sensitive and anything you say can be interpreted in a way Betty could never even understand, and Roberta spends her school day being the outcast with no friends and believing the stupid adults who tell her the other kids are being intolerant of her because she wears a dress now,when really they couldn't care less, they're just scared of getting in trouble over something they have no understanding of and their parents tell them to just stay away from Roberta because her parents might sue them for something if they say the wrong thing to her.
No mater what me and my wife do, we just cant get our 5 year old to call me daddy.
She calls me Alan.
Wife and I dont care. Other people do. Other people demand that we teach our daughter to call me daddy. Its a point of respect they protest.
Yeah. fuck that.
Our job is to educate the next generation. Not to programe them.j
If our daughter ever says 'yes sir' to me....I have failed.
No mater what me and my wife do, we just cant get our 5 year old to call me daddy.
She calls me Alan.
Wife and I dont care. Other people do. Other people demand that we teach our daughter to call me daddy. Its a point of respect they protest.
Yeah. fuck that.
Our job is to educate the next generation. Not to programe them.j
If our daughter ever says 'yes sir' to me....I have failed.
Englteachted:
Many children go through a phase like that. Should she be surgically altered to never be able to call you daddy, ever?
