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Q: Can I land an English teaching job being a non native without a bachelor's degree?

I am TEFL certified, have a year's experience and a clear American accent.

6 years 18 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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Oh look... Yet another "I've done some research, and all the official sites say no, but I didn't like that answer, and so I'm coming here hoping to hear some people say how to make that a 'yes'" type question...

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No, its illegal.

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I can get you a job.  Send $5.00 American in clean, new, unmarked bills to: 

 

Prince Michael of Gabon

PO Box 696969

Shanghai, Texas,,, oops, I meant Shanghai, China

00888-007

 

I'll contact you again in 24 hours after receipt of the gratuity.

*plus you gotta help me to learn engrish goodly

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No, you can't! At least not legal work with Z visa and Residence permit.

 

You can get employed with F visa (or M ... confused about right letter ... i.e. 'Business visa'), but that is not legal employment.

The worst part of illegal work is: employer has you under the tight grip and he/she can do anything to you (as not paying you) and you cannot seek help from Government for such employer's actions.

 

Whoever will offer you such work will certainly take an advantage of you!

 

Don't work in China in any other way then legal with Z visa and Residence permit. 

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It's China so who knows, maybe. In fact, probably.

 

But, as Ironman rightly said (EDITED: and Icnif - Icnif knows about these things), it's illegal. That means that any job you do land is likely to be one you really wouldn't want. Your visa status will be 'questionable', you'll probably be working for a school where whatever contract you sign is completely disregarded.

 

There's a good chance you'll be treated like shite because you don't have any real options and you're working illegally for people who hired you illegally,  you'll have no comeback when they decide they don't want to pay you, the tourist visa you're on expired long ago and the promised legit visa never happened and was never going to happen. Leaving the country at that point means you explaining why you've been in the country so long with no visa, and that can mean a massive fine and some prison time.

 

Sorry to be so blunt here, but that's just the reality of the situation. You can google plenty of stories just like this one.

 

Maybe you'll get lucky and find a school willing and able to get around the rules but my advice is to look at other options. China isn't the easy option it once was.

 

 

 

 

icnif77:

... and I've always worked legal way except for the first 3 months or so at my beginning in China.

I don't even want to think about how all that would look like if I would work with F, i.e. without SAFEA's help.

Most likely, I would stay and work in China only for the first 6 months.

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Yep, can't think why anyone would subject themselves to that.

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Chinese to Chinese, not Chinese (employers) to foreigners ...:

 

High school teens ‘forced’ to work 11-hour shifts at iPhone X assembly plant to graduate

High school teens ‘forced’ to work 11-hour shifts at iPhone X assembly plant to graduate

Chinese high school students have reportedly been “forced” to work up to 11 hours a day assembling the Apple iPhone X smartphones at a manufacturing plant in Zhengzhou, central China, as part of a mandatory school “work experience” program.
 
 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-21/foxconn-interns-worked-illegal-11-hour-shifts-meet-iphone-x-demand

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