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Q: Chinese ABC work Permit?

I saw my first ABC work permit today.. well actually it was a photo because the actual item was at the PSB for his RP application.

 

There seems to be nothing on any Chinese forums about this subject.  So I thought I would start a thread with a deliberate title so the Google bots can do their stuff.

 

The promised credit card style ID is actually a bit of thin paper encapsulated in a standard laminated envelope. It's bigger than a credit card, so you will need a bigger wallet/purse. I suspect any modifications with scissors will be a criminal offense, so a bigger wallet it has to be.

 

The A, B or C is at the top right corner. My mate had a B. It's pretty prominent.

 

The QR code, scanned via wechat, directs you to some sort of Rules page. It seems Generic, not card holder specific, and it is all in Chinese.  It has lots of photos of lovely Chinese scenery.  It does not seem to have the info the legislation said it will have.

 

But it's a start I suppose.

 

Some facts for you folks out there who can't find info.

 

My WP card has been approved, and the WP office issue a certificate to say you have been approved. After the certificate is issued, you need to submit your original documents to the labour office. It will take 5 to 10 days to issue the card.

 

Take the card to the PSB with the usual stuff to get your residence permit.

 

Here are some facts that I will share, because I have been at crush depth over this in the past few weeks.

 

The system is new, and the PSB is very understanding. I don't have my physical work permit yet ( Laminator problems I suspect, not enough pouches), but my RP ran out today. No problem, HR and wife (cos I don't trust HR), went to PSB yesterday and submitted my application for an RP without a WP. They accept it, and ask that you bring them your WP when issued. They had the document to say the WP had been granted.

 

They give you the magic PSB passport receipt. Once you have that, you are safe. And for info, It's not tourist visa etc, It's just a receipt. You can continue working.

 

PSB told my wife they will give me a three year work RP. Depends on job contract.

 

I do not have a degree. Non teaching job. I can confirm you do not need a degree for non teaching jobs under the new system. This was a major worry for me.

 

I did not have to do a new medical.

 

You do need to present your documents as if you were applying for your first Z. But after the online WP application. If they are in your home country... you need them here.

 

Chinese HR departments have no idea how the new system works. And there is very little on the web about it. Even in Chinese.

 

As for the other stuff such as criminal checks for teachers, I have no idea.

 

There is a total lack of information out there, so lets put some info here Smile

 

And make sure your temp residence registration is up to date. They are hot on this. I had to get a new one because the local cops made a spelling mistake.

 

Hope this info is of help Smile

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Update.

 

I got my WP today. Not actually in my hand. I got a fuzzy photo.

 

It's the proper credit card thing now. Looks cool. Has an 18 digit Chinese ID number on it. The number is based on your date of birth.

 

I got a C grade.

 

One year.

 

Strange thing is, it has a start date but no end date. You need to scan the QR to get that.

 

Just for the record, so you folk know.

 

My history is Z, first work permit 1 year, first RP 3 years. Second work permit 2 year, third work permit 2 years, second RP 2 years.

 

That takes me to 5 years through the combinations.

 

No degree.

 

Health check with initial RP application 5 years ago. No health check and no criminal check for this new system. Engineer. Teachers might be different.

 

No mention of the 5 year rule and have to leave, no mention of the consecutive work permits that give you a 5 year RP.

 

It seems to me that they have just abolished the work permit labour department and given it to SAFEA. SAFEA are qualification mad, it's the only thing they see.

 

They don't tell you how many points you get

 

They don't tell you the scoring system. But wait for more info on that. I am setting the wife loose on SAFEA tomorrow, so hope to have more info soon.

 

The main thing is, it is possible to work here without a degree. But the Chinese Government classify you as a toilet cleaner. No matter how big your budget, no matter how many patents you have.... no degree = toilet cleaner.

 

But to be honest, I need time to clarify this. I am not sure if the real root cause is lazy HR or difficult Government.

 

So bear with me. I need to set my wife loose to try get some real facts indecision

 

 

 

 

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it is truly mazing that a person, in this day and age, can go from a mere peasant (C class) to an emperoron ECC.

 

the proof is in the pudding         A phrase that, when uttered, instantly identifies the speaker as being incredibly stupid and illiterate.  here is another recent example of a man rising from nowhere to be an influential soul

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Nath_Kovind

 

the new President of India....  from a low caste to a big shot

 

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Bump.

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i have still not met a C grade work permit. I am the only one.

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Yeah ScotsAlan is right, has the ABC become the easiest visa to do now? Or have others been kicked out, We know a few have made it and worked their a** off to stay in China and went through hell like some our guys here on Echina.

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