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Q: Do cops give foreigners special treatment in your city?

The other day, in my smaller city, about five of us foreigners (all Americans and Canadians) decided to do some night riding together and just roam around the city on our motorcycles. We said we would take a beer at various places to relax and if one of us seemed even a little drunk he is out. 

 

Anyway, we stopped at this one shop and it happened to be RIGHT outside a police station. So, we are drinking a beer in front of a police station (because we can?). And about three of us don't even have plates or a license... 

 

After a bit, a cop came out and said "Can I help you?"... we talked to him in Chinese for a bit. He asked us if we had licenses... only one of us has a clear (yet cheated for) Chinese license while the rest of us showed him our license from our own country (not legal in China). He then saw a beer in a couple of our hands and asked if we were drinking... we told him we had a few beers here and there... cause there was no hiding it... 

 

He just told us to be careful and slow down, then proceeded to tell us the inner-workings of China and which things were corrupt etc. I think if we were in Canada/America, we would have been beaten to a pulp for having the brass to drink a beer in front of a police station at night with four motorcycles without places and three drivers without licenses.

 

China truly is a weird place. How about your experiences? Ever get special or horrible treatment from the cops just because you were a foreigner? 

9 years 32 weeks ago in  Lifestyle - China

 
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the paperwork and extra effort to deal with foreigners was his biggest concern, but if you had hurt or caused any problems for chinese citizens, all hell would have broke loose on all of you. this is china.

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They don't bother me in China whatsoever. It's because of the language barrierme thinks... I'm 'police bother me often' guy in the West.

 

There's cop house on the big crossing in my city with 2-3 cops present all the time. It was closed/abandoned for Moon's festivities.

I guess, Moon is in charge of the traffic during the holidays in my city.

 

I cross the road on any light, despite cops could see me, but they never say anything.

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In general, Chinese cops don't like to deal with paperwork and put out more effort than they need to, not unless properly motivated. Notice how many cars drive in the bike lane, or park wherever they want, while cops pretend not to see. Same with all the scooters and ebikes that never stop for red lights, while the cops watch. 

 

Now, if there was an altercation between you and a local (well, a Han local), then ethnic pride would get the cops involved. You see the occasional article about non-Chinese who are caught jaywalking, or urinating in public, when they want to make an example of how terrible those "foreigners" are, but I would wager that most of the time, the police just don't care enough to do anything aobut it. 

 

As far as my experiences, I've never had any dealings with the police beyond registration at the police station. Though, I've avoided breaking laws too. I wouldn't drink and go riding, not just because it's illegal, but it's dangerous (and also the negativity that would come from an article about how "Foreigners don't obey traffic laws" is something none of us need). I have had a local once spit on me, shout something, and then ride off, while the police just looked on. I'm sure if it were reversed, or if the guy didn't ride off, but started a fight, then the cops would get involved, and when a white guy and a yellow guy are involved in any fight (it's more about race than nationality, but here, they conflate the two), it wouldn't matter who starts it. You know who would be blamed. 

Robk:

Yeah, it was just a night out with the boys and sometimes you need to release your inner-anger and sort of play around with the Chinese. 

 

Besides, a few Chinese beers won't get anyone drunk (they actually make me drive better because I am not so stressed at all the idiots cutting me off)... besides some super-light weights. 

 

But I noticed that too, except the rule in smaller cities doesn't quite work like larger cities. If you have more influence and powerful Chinese friends, it goes A LONG way in a smaller city. You could probably beat up a few locals and get away with it if you play your cards right and the cops will be on your side. 

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Hmm, you're right there about connections, at least in smaller cities. In a small city, if you're friends with the chief of police (you meet him every so often for dinners, and give enough baijiu and cigarette gifts), you might find the cops will side with you over a random local. 

 

In a bigger city, it'd be harder to have some exclusive connection with the police. More likely, the cops who deal with you would have no idea who you are, other than "One of them".  

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You weren't causing any real mischief. I like that the cops are cool about somethings, even running red lights. I live rural in Canada, policing has gotten so big, you can't do anything.

I'm not a paranoid person, I had men watching me sometimes, then I realized they were undercover cops. I'm sure they must look at foreigners. When I got my last visa I was warned to  obey all laws including no sex with women. (how did they know?) I'm not ready to be a switch hitter yet.

one third of a beer will get you a days suspension at home, plus all the extras,,,,,wtf?

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"no sex with women" normal, foreign devils must stop stealing chinese women from handsome, strong and caring chinese men.

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I wouldn't know.  Any time a Chinese police officer tries talking to me, I suddenly become an Arabic speaker, and they quickly leave.

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Sounds like all the people that answered haven't got in to any real altercations (probably a combination of luck and keeping their heads down) but I am sure some of you have got into some real crap and the cops had to get in on it. 

 

Talking to you Hulk and Mike... lol

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I couldn't tell you.  The only thing I've seen police officers do here is take photos of accidents or pretend to direct traffic flow at some absurdly congested intersection.  Oh, I have seen them mediate(at least try) some petty argument on the street.  Has anyone seen different?

 

 

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as someone already said, try to get involved in a fight with a Han, that could be the real test to see whether cops treat you differently or not. Talking about this, from my experience Shanghai is better than Beijing and Bejing is better than Hangzhou...

Otherwise traffic rules?I saw more than once cops breaking them. Who really gives a F about traffic rules here...

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I have only had good dealings with the police. Always professional. I have never noticed any anti foreigner sentiment when a problem with the locals happens.

I thought the recent car thing was, but that was in the heat of the moment and it was surely my fault.

Even my jail time was fairly pleasant. No handcuffs. No cells just sitting in a comfortable office chair. When they realized I wasnt going to go away easy they did their jobs and sided with me.

So it may happen but i have never experienced the us against them with police. They have usually treated me better than the Chinese.

I didnt have my drivers license for the first few years. Been checked a few times and nothing.

I like the cops here. Ive been to alot of countries where the police bring fear. Here its just indifference. Thats cool.

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I never deal with cops in China, in fact last weekend they were checking everyone's apartments in my residence, we got a paper notice (also my Chinese neighbors who I know) a week before asking us to be here on Sunday 31st of August between 10 and 11 am, I was here relaxing in my sofa, they knocked on the door, I didn't even bother to open. But cops in China are alright, they don't bother me at all, people don't seem to fear or like them, they are just indifferent.

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Chinese cops are pretty lazy about solving any crime. One of my coworkers got her bag stolen from Starbucks, so she called the Police and their response was basically "Well, what do you want me to do about it?".  My girlfriend is a police officer too(she does clerical work) and told me unless they can solve in it quickly they won't even bother. She said usually foreigners they will try a little harder if you complain. That's only because they are afraid you will say complain, and it will make them look if it gets reported and people talk about it. Hence why some Japanese guy's bike was found within a day of it being stolen, and most Chinese can't get a phone they forgot in taxi back.

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I never have problems with cops. Once I showed my passport they'll wave me off. But I sometimes pity the locals because cops will hassle them no end. 

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