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Sign up with Google Sign up with FacebookQ: Do you ever regret moving to China?
For those long term visitors here, how long is your intended stay, and for those more permanent residents, do you ever regret the move to live here?
Personally, over the last eight years, there have been times when i've been walking down the street and suddenly found myself saying "How the Hell did I get here? Which way to the airport? I want a bag of chips" but for the most part i'm content and don't regret the move...............until of course I regret the move again, then I find myself saying "What the Hell am I doing here? Where's the bus-stop? I want a kebab." But it passes and I get back into the swing of things and once again start to enjoy it. Ultimately i'm reminded that i'd not have the same wife and kid if I was back in England (and i've grown quite fond of those two), and i'd not have the same free-time to enjoy with whichever wife and kid I might have were I to be living back there. So there is a very sunny side to this street..........and I guess i'm walking on it.
But what of yourself? Any regrets?
NOT AT ALL, I still love coming to China.. It saved my future. Because I used the opportunity the correct way, if you are one of those guys who hates china, thats probably because you didn't use your opportunity the correct way and you took things, culture, habits and differences too personal, so thats your own fault!
Sure a guy peeing by the subway is sick, but you don't have to care.
I have NO plans ever to go back to the U.S, I only miss Lebron James and the NBA.
xinyuren:
Here here. There are many crappy things about China, but the experience is what you make it. We will stay here for awhile, then move on to other parts of the world. I do not plan on returning home.
manasyt:
A guy peeing in the subway is better than someone sticking a knife in your stomach or pointing a gun to you head...Not that I come from a place like that...
ironman510:
Here here, agreed, I do enjoy safety from gangs and weapons, back in the U.S it's quite normal to hear news about people getting killed or hurt by weapons..
manasyt:
I've lived in Detroit...heard things every once in a while, nothing happened to me. Lived in East London for 6 months too...before all the crazy shit happened there...I guess I'm lucky LOL.
I never regretted moving to China. And after almost 7 years in China and 1 year back in my home country, I have never regretted moving back either.
One I started having more BCDs than GCDs, I knew it was time to leave. I do miss things and some people in China. But, I do not think I could ever live there again.
I've been here since '08 (with a year break in 10'11). Now it has got to the stage where all I want is to take my wife and yet-to-be-born child and go back to the UK. I know it's not perfect there but I genuinely believe that life is much, much better than here.
It has actually got to the point where I am trapped here 'cos the missus does not want to leave yet and I obviously cannot abandon her. Everyday is purgatory. I feel like I am in a prison, albeit a very large one.
andy74rc:
Understand the feeling. It feels to me too a bit like living in the movie "Escape from New York"....
I've never been regretting moving to China. It's been a wonderful experience that made me growing as a man, and that gave me the chance to work my career out. I doubt I could have been able to make the same achievements keep on staying in my home country. I had lot of fun too, and a lot of frustration as well. All in all I can't say it's been boring! But now priorities and environment are changing.
By the end of 2014, it will be 10 years in China for me. A quarter of my life. And it's going to be enough. A new swirl in my job is needed to avoid fossilization and to further grow in my career, and along with a baby girl, these are good enough reasons to move back.
My wife has no concerns in moving. She understand very well the good reasons behind such decision and luckily she likes very much my home country, and that will make things easier.
I have been here three and a half years. Some days I love it, some days I hate it. To be honest though, life is easy here.
Now I have moved to a decent sized city, I have no problem fulfilling those Western 'cravings' (cheese, pizza, cinemas, western style clothing etc) so things are better.
I don't have property back in England, and not much savings to speak of.. so what would be my prospects back in England? Moving in with my parents til I find somewhere and working a nine to five office job? No thanks.
I'll be here for a while yet!
Haha, almost 3 years here..Married this summer. Got a brand new car this week, feels amazing, never had a new car before. Regret? Not at all...have had a much better life here than anywhere else I've lived.
80% of the time.
Sadly, it is a case of the UK has deteoriated somewhat due to the open door policy that started in 2001. A lot has been made of the impact this has had on the UK. That being said, London is the best city in the world, and has been voted such by tourists in three of the last four years.
How anyone can say life is better in CHina, needs their head examining.
I saved more in the UK. I could see my friends; I could watch football and I mean at our ground, I could go and eat different food. I would get straight answers even if they were negative.
Here, too many things are just not that good.
Even the women are pretty, yet I have questioned their personas, their motives etc.
In short, I regret coming here at least 80% of the time.
I am trying to leave, but having given up everything to come here for my ex-wife in the first place, it is very difficult.
CARLGODWIN1983:
I can take some positives from my experience though, so it's not all bad.
no,never,sir!
chenhan:
China is still a developping country,which means it needs to develop in many points,not only economy,but also people's thoughts,such as attitude to civil behavior and environment protection.we cant compare it with developped countries and blame China in every aspect.The culture revolution ruined almost every thing of this country,including economy and traditional culture.So,it still needs time to restore.if everyone wants to enjoy the fruits rather than being a contributor, there would be no improvement.its not easy for China to be what it is now,and it is still making improvements,so,let's move on with it hopefully.
andy74rc:
I'm afraid I won't see such improvements within my lifespan.
chenhan:
i couldn't help if you really think so.anyway,have a nice holiday!
andy74rc:
You can't help even I think different. What's the point.....
Every time i have a BCD i think where i would be and what i would be doing if i had remained at home....... It has been frustrating here at times but i don't regret coming. I have met some great people here and experienced some interesting things. And maybe made a positive impact on someone's life. it has been a roller-coaster, and that is better than sitting at home
I regret moving home, actually.
livingfree85:
care to elaborate? I'm actually considering it and am looking for the cons. After being here for 4 years, all I can see are the pros at the moment.
Hulk:
Pros: Our daughter is safe and sound, and her and her mother are getting great medical care, nutrition, etc. Pretty much zero pollution. Everything is great for them. I do not regret moving home for these reasons.
However....
Cons: I don't have anything to do here. Seriously. I live in a rural area, so there are quite literally zero jobs. If I want a job, I need to move to another state. I can't move right now because I'm still in college.
When I was living in China, I had a job teaching English. I had my own thing going, and I felt like I wasn't a drain on everyone. I didn't have to worry about saving money until I graduate because I had a great job and worked hard.
Now I'm just sitting here playing games, programming, etc. I'm building my portfolio in preparation to leave this place forever, but I honestly miss China. I miss the food, the great people I met in another province, my job as an English teacher, etc. I really loved that job. At the time, I couldn't wait to get out, and I was pissed at the school, but I really loved the job.
livingfree85:
Those are some definite cons, it's way more difficult to get readjusted in rural areas. The air quality alone is making me consider my future. There are a lot of things to adjust to here and for me, not being around my family and lifelong friends has turned out to be one of the worst feelings I've felt. It's easy to lose touch of who you were before coming here and I didn't realize how hardened to different things I'd become after 4 years here. I'm thinking that mentally I'll be much more successful/happy at home because here I am more upset/frustrated/agitated than not.
NOT AT ALL, I still love coming to China.. It saved my future. Because I used the opportunity the correct way, if you are one of those guys who hates china, thats probably because you didn't use your opportunity the correct way and you took things, culture, habits and differences too personal, so thats your own fault!
Sure a guy peeing by the subway is sick, but you don't have to care.
I have NO plans ever to go back to the U.S, I only miss Lebron James and the NBA.
xinyuren:
Here here. There are many crappy things about China, but the experience is what you make it. We will stay here for awhile, then move on to other parts of the world. I do not plan on returning home.
manasyt:
A guy peeing in the subway is better than someone sticking a knife in your stomach or pointing a gun to you head...Not that I come from a place like that...
ironman510:
Here here, agreed, I do enjoy safety from gangs and weapons, back in the U.S it's quite normal to hear news about people getting killed or hurt by weapons..
manasyt:
I've lived in Detroit...heard things every once in a while, nothing happened to me. Lived in East London for 6 months too...before all the crazy shit happened there...I guess I'm lucky LOL.
I have not for the past 12 years. This year, I do somewhat because of the new visa rules and the tightening up on foreigners among other issues. Things were good under Hu Jintao. I think historians will look back and see him as one of the greater Chinese leaders. Need guy comes in and upsets the apple cart. The World Economy is breaking apart and it has finally come to China. So make it hard for the foreigners or divert issues.
I am married to a Chinese woman, and we mostly have a good relationship, although it is long distance a lot of times. Sometimes I think what my life could be if I stayed in the USA. I might have a real career now, a proper home, and I would be close to my aging parents. I could be making real money instead of minimum wage in China. But I like my work here. Besides my parents are fairly wealthy and I am an only child. Do not have to worry about a sensible retirement if Obama, the US government, or the economy doesn't snatch it away.
However, I did and do have a dislike for the USA in many respects. First coming here to China was a great adventure, a I met my wife here. My life for the past 12 years has been mostly fun and mostly bullish.t free. Yes, I have had bumps in the road, with employment sometimes, troubles with other foreigners and other minor BS. But I really liked living my life he where I had very few problems.
i also got to take some wonderful trips. Thailand, Laos (I love Laos, but they poised me off when thy sent those kids back to North Korea, but still a lovely country, Cambodia and Vietnam. I also saw a lot of China. From the coast to Kashgar. Amazing country China is and it is very easy to travel and see it.
No regrets. Through the good and the bad, China has been (and still is) an interesting ride. My initial plan was for 3 years, then move on to Central America. A special girl threw a wrench in that plan. Then another special little girl came. Now, it seems we will be here for a little while more. I came here to learn about the culture and every day is a lesson. No regrets.
I miss China, and my old job teaching English, every day. However, every time I think about moving back, the pollution and food scares bring me back to reality. The utter disregard for human life in China actually scares me. I do miss China a lot, and I really think that -- despite my incessant bitching -- it was a great experience. The experience of a lifetime, really.
We will go back to visit, but for now it isn't a place to live. If things change for the better, we'd strongly consider it. I don't like the way things are going in America lately, so we've been looking into Europe as a potentially better place to raise our family.
I don't regret moving to china, but i should have been more prepared before coming.
the first time i came to china was for a scientific purpose and yes i regret about that because i did not accomplished what i was expected but i have gained other useful and valuable things so i think its okay for me and i will keep going ~
No, never would regret it. I have a BS degree in computer science, but it's useless in the U.S, too many techs in the U.S as well. All the Computer jobs came here, I was one of the unlucky few who got laid off from IBM after it moved to China and parts of Thailand and Taiwan..
Strange thing was, I made more as a teacher rather then a Tech in Asia...
ironman510:
The only regret I have is that I can't tell my wife: Honey don't worry I can stay in China forever, don't worry I don't have to leave or do any crazy visa runs. ( That's what my friends call Disney land thinking,)
From a financial standpoint- no, not at all, best choice I ever made.
I come from Vancouver ie the most expensive city in the country where the main job markets, are tourism/movies, construction or lumber.
I hate smoking weed, im too much of a bitch to work in construction and im too ugly to be a movie star, so im pretty confident that i make more money here than ever could back home. So as long as my boss will have me, ill be here. I can travel as much as I like, I can buy whatever I want, and i dont ever need to think about money. Coming from a single parent childhood, thats super important to me. Not that I came from a poor family, my moms a fucking boss. But the freedom you get from not thinking about money and still saving is a nice feeling.
On the other hand, I hate 80% of the people. Because of said job, i cant live in the city center, so im around migrant workers all day. I have amazing friends, but i can only see them once a month if i drive up or they come down. I havent felt excited about food in years. I need to drive an hour to get a bag of BBQ doritos. And if one more piece of shit cuts me off im gonna get charged for vehicular manslaughter.
But my wife is perfect and I have a home with all the comforts one can hope for here........
I dunno. this question sucks....
On the other hand.
dom87:
seems you have the same problem as me with the job but i couldnt take it anymore so i quit and take a new job next month
mike695ca:
Yeah, thats not an option for me. The job is perfect.. The only way to deal, is hide at home, or drive to the city center alot. So im finding a balance
No I met my wife here....so no regrets. We have been able to save here. As far as career advancement .....yeah a little. I also can not wait to get out of this polluted city.