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Q: Do you find yourself rejoicing at bad economic news for pretentious primary school teachers?

I know these primary school teachers know how to use a thesaurus and constantly talk down to people. Why, oh why don't the Chinese kiss their asses and worship them for their knowledge of literature and poetry? Those ten year olds are just vulgar dickheads for failing to appreciate the most recent lecture (in their second language) on the crass petty bourgeoisie. Why can't these primary school teachers find the high paying job and respect that they deserve? 

 

Do you get any pleasure out of the economic difficulties that these intelligent yet completely useless bastards are starting to face? 

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Teachers are in a win win situation. Economy goes up... demand goes up. Economy goes down, demand goes up because more people want to get out.

 

But..... a big but..... it could all collapse in the wink of an eye.

 

If a foreign kiddie fiddler was to be executed, the whole propaganda machine would kick into gear and all foreigners would feel somewhat "picked upon". Laws would be changed/ introduced, and we would all be gone. Teacher or not.

 

But there is a solution. We foreigners need to "self police" to an extent.  We all know China sweeps such things under the carpet. But one day,  there will be a political fight and all us foreigners will be pawns.

 

As foreigners, we need to make sure the dodgy people are kicked out. Suspect someone?...... confront.  Kick his arse across the border.  

 

We all need to self police ourselves.

 

 

RiriRiri:

Yeah, let's report people so we can have a better tomorrow!

Because we all know that's how it works!

 

This, ladies and gentlemen, is how fascism is still a thing. You don't even have the excuse of ignorance, you come from a place that actually delivers history lessons.

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ScotsAlan:

I am talking about kiddie fiddlers riri. The scum of the earth.

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RiriRiri:

Sure. And you and me are the authority to investigate & report. Out of fear that it backfires on us some day. Way to go.

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ScotsAlan:

I agree with what you say riri. But there is no system here to protect kids. Wow, even in the UK the system keeps letting kids down.

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laowaigentleman:

This is why I can be a bit of a dick sometimes. I don't like working with unqualified people for this very reason.

 

At my last university there was a guy with no qualifications who was on the spousal visa because his wife was an actual teacher. He pulled strings with a CCP auntie to become a teacher of Portuguese there.

 

He never actually taught anything. He'd go in with a book for Brazilian high school student and talk for the whole lesson and then he'd get out his guitar. The farmer students actually put down their iphones when this guy started strumming the opening bars to Layla, but he tended to need to stop and try again when he would inevitably mess it up.

 

He would talk about me and my friend who lectures in his second and third languages behind our backs when we welcomed him into the school. I used to go out drinking with the guy too. He told all the staff my salary and went around backstabbing everyone, but because the students liked his guitar, no-one did anything. In fact, such as China is, lots of the staff members who he back stabbed started to suck up to him. He described me as having, "meh, good general knowledge..." implying he had some kind of deep technical understanding and the all timesome "life experience" and "social intelligence", the latter of which he definitely didn't have. He was about as aspie as they come. Pulled out a photo of his abs and biceps from back when he was 22 during a company dinner. The last thing I want to look at is some oily douche while I'm eating dumplings.

 

I'm surprised this can happen after the visa standards were introduced, and I would never dob him in, but I can't stand people like him who think they can just walk into the room, low ball, draw a salary while causing chaos all around him. The school lost two proper teachers thanks to him, but the management of the school can't put two and two together.

 

How would you feel if incompetent foreign dickheads kept showing up in the schools in your country?

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RiriRiri:

I don't know, you're the one to consider this place good enough to call home.

 

As for myself, not my problem. By my definition of it, Chinese parenting is child abuse and I have to witness it every day. Their problem not mine.

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@ laowai...   do me a favor  (favour)    tell me in American the meanings/definition.. aspie.  dob him in.    xiexie

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laowaigentleman:

"aspie" is short for aspergers. It's what we call people with no social skills. A kind of idiot savant. Rainman-esque.

 

"Dob him in" means to report him to the authorities or management. Just like the word "snitch".

 

I don't know the origin of "aspie", but "dob him in" will be British.

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I really don't rejoice in their misfortunes - I actually generally wish them them the best and even enjoy conversing with them on occasion. Though I sometimes wonder what made their minds so bitter and twisted towards everybody in the first place.

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I thought we aren't suppose to discuss the lumpenproletariats.

dongbeiren:

Only a troglodyte philistine would say such a thing! 

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I do say good sir, I believe you've lost your manners. 

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laowaigentleman:

Did you make that?

 

It's fucking awesome!

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Nooo, I got it off smbc-comics.com. I changed the words in MS paint.

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Teachers are in a win win situation. Economy goes up... demand goes up. Economy goes down, demand goes up because more people want to get out.

 

But..... a big but..... it could all collapse in the wink of an eye.

 

If a foreign kiddie fiddler was to be executed, the whole propaganda machine would kick into gear and all foreigners would feel somewhat "picked upon". Laws would be changed/ introduced, and we would all be gone. Teacher or not.

 

But there is a solution. We foreigners need to "self police" to an extent.  We all know China sweeps such things under the carpet. But one day,  there will be a political fight and all us foreigners will be pawns.

 

As foreigners, we need to make sure the dodgy people are kicked out. Suspect someone?...... confront.  Kick his arse across the border.  

 

We all need to self police ourselves.

 

 

RiriRiri:

Yeah, let's report people so we can have a better tomorrow!

Because we all know that's how it works!

 

This, ladies and gentlemen, is how fascism is still a thing. You don't even have the excuse of ignorance, you come from a place that actually delivers history lessons.

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ScotsAlan:

I am talking about kiddie fiddlers riri. The scum of the earth.

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Sure. And you and me are the authority to investigate & report. Out of fear that it backfires on us some day. Way to go.

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ScotsAlan:

I agree with what you say riri. But there is no system here to protect kids. Wow, even in the UK the system keeps letting kids down.

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laowaigentleman:

This is why I can be a bit of a dick sometimes. I don't like working with unqualified people for this very reason.

 

At my last university there was a guy with no qualifications who was on the spousal visa because his wife was an actual teacher. He pulled strings with a CCP auntie to become a teacher of Portuguese there.

 

He never actually taught anything. He'd go in with a book for Brazilian high school student and talk for the whole lesson and then he'd get out his guitar. The farmer students actually put down their iphones when this guy started strumming the opening bars to Layla, but he tended to need to stop and try again when he would inevitably mess it up.

 

He would talk about me and my friend who lectures in his second and third languages behind our backs when we welcomed him into the school. I used to go out drinking with the guy too. He told all the staff my salary and went around backstabbing everyone, but because the students liked his guitar, no-one did anything. In fact, such as China is, lots of the staff members who he back stabbed started to suck up to him. He described me as having, "meh, good general knowledge..." implying he had some kind of deep technical understanding and the all timesome "life experience" and "social intelligence", the latter of which he definitely didn't have. He was about as aspie as they come. Pulled out a photo of his abs and biceps from back when he was 22 during a company dinner. The last thing I want to look at is some oily douche while I'm eating dumplings.

 

I'm surprised this can happen after the visa standards were introduced, and I would never dob him in, but I can't stand people like him who think they can just walk into the room, low ball, draw a salary while causing chaos all around him. The school lost two proper teachers thanks to him, but the management of the school can't put two and two together.

 

How would you feel if incompetent foreign dickheads kept showing up in the schools in your country?

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RiriRiri:

I don't know, you're the one to consider this place good enough to call home.

 

As for myself, not my problem. By my definition of it, Chinese parenting is child abuse and I have to witness it every day. Their problem not mine.

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"aspie" is short for aspergers. It's what we call people with no social skills. A kind of idiot savant. Rainman-esque.

 

"Dob him in" means to report him to the authorities or management. Just like the word "snitch".

 

I don't know the origin of "aspie", but "dob him in" will be British.

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I hate it when people immediately answer their own question. 

Sinobear:

Why is that?

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Sinobear:

Maybe it's because they don't think to put it in the body of their question or perhaps they just want more points.

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It's against TOU.

 

I see it as 'let's push my Q from 'New Qs' pit toa 'very active' 'Last As' pit.

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As much as I'd love to rant about the bourgeoisie, Dongbeiren, it's readily apparent to anyone who isn't a complete barbarian that this particular academic trend is passe (pass ay).

 

It is sad to come to a place so badly behind, but I know I've made a contribution to primary school education in China by introducing the works of Heideggar, Soren Kierkegaard, Sartre, Dostoevsky, Kafka and Albert Camus. Before I introduce these great figures to my seven year old students who've just received the tea mugs they fashioned yesterday in the art room, I discuss David Hume's metaphysical arguments in defense of suicide and then randomly choose a child to recite a carefully chosen page and create a contextual analysis, examining Hume's views on suicide, applied to Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad.

 

Oh fuck, I can't find the bloody irony key 

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what economic difficulties exactly? who made you feel talked down to?

laughing at people's misery over a quasi-imagined sleight is most unbecoming of a person, especially one who enjoyed a western education. this is how you come across:
"ha ha! i percieved the message you wrote as condescending, and regardless of whether that was your intention, i'm now openly gloating to the teacher community about people like you but not you, losing their jobs and getting in trouble with authorities. justice at last! ha ha!"

i'm sure your family misses your pettiness terribly. they must be so sad you went and buggered off to China. a great loss indeed; what a waste of a western education you are.

TL,DR: Behave yourself. Chinese/kids are watching, and you mustn't validate their bad attitudes.

laowaigentleman:

He was just parodying the premises I was using when I talked about hoping things got tough for the business community.

 

He doesn't really mean it, man. He's a teacher too.

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Yea, what laowai said. Coin, see below. 

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dongbeiren:

Discussing someon's family and western education is a little much in response to a thread that you can surely figure out is a joke seeing as you read this forum regularly. You must get into a lot of bar fights. 

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Well I'm a little bit surprised about some of the reactions to this thread so let me just clarify a few things. First, the thread was meant as a joke, specifically a joke to mock the recent post of laowaigentleman about bad economic news in China and basically to poke fun at laowaigentleman in general for his writing style and what he's said about his teaching style. So Coin, I have no idea what you're talking about regarding losing one's job and trouble with authorities or justice but I think you're reading waaaay too much into the op. Now, the fact that it was a joke does not really excuse me in any way. By posting this, I was being a bully. Simple as that. Laowaigentleman got universally slammed for his recent op and I basically just started this thread to continue the drubbing. Doing so is pretty immature and doesn't really reflect very well on me. I feel especially bad about starting such a thread after Laowai apologized on the thread he started and shared some information about the personal difficulties he's been having in China lately. I can't blame him for being pissed off and using the internet to vent. We all do it. So I was being an asshole to Laowaigentleman. In fact, after dissing him for taking pleasure in the suffering of Chinese, I basically started a thread to take pleasure in the drubbing he was getting on this forum: I guess that makes me  a hypocrite and an asshole. 

 

So Laowai, you manned up and said you were a dick on your thread so I'll try and do the same here. I am a dick. Mea culpa.  Life is too short to be an asshole and way too short to pick fights with strangers on the internet. 

 

Coin, I can't blame you for the negative reaction to my mean OP but you've always had it out for me pretty much since I've started on this forum. I won't lose any sleep over it but it's not mutual and I'm not really sure why. 

 

 

ScotsAlan:

Joke questions can bring a lot of good points up though. And, it's often the most mundane conversations that reveal the most about people.... at that instant. Everyone here seems to be on a rollercoaster ride (including me).  It's just a symptom of living here.

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laowaigentleman:

You're alright, man. You don't have to apologize to me. It was my obnoxiousness which provoked you in the first place. I apologized after you wrote the thread not before, so you're being too hard on yourself.

 

You're not a hypocrite or an arsehole simply because you weren't trying to lay it on me. It can feel bad to have loads of people respond negatively to what you say. I don't really have the internal fortitude to stand up to it, and I am hot-headed and shoot my mouth off, and inevitably regretting what I said. Perhaps you're feeling the same way from the response you've gotten? Making enemies online is a pain in the arse. I think they just didn't get the context of what you were saying.

 

You did nothing wrong. Peace man wink

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you need to take off your tinfoil victim hat, dude. i only ever remember things about posters with interesting names or profile pics. you have neither, so you might as well be anonymous. i do remember wondering if your profile was one of those CFTU accounts when you first posted, because naming yourself after city of residence seems a bit bland. but your post count became too high for that to be realistic. i'm afraid i don't "have it in" for you personally, though it will probably take a while for me to forget *this* incident. i only attack posters for their comments. you baited me with a loaded question, you got what you could have expected, and you're now proceeding to milk the advantage for all it's worth. i'm willing to say "no hard feelings", but don't mistake it for an apology. this was a misunderstanding you brought about.

dongbeiren:

Victim hat? I owned up to being a jerk, which is hardly claiming to be a victim so I'm not  sure what advantage you claim I'm trying to milk. Along the lines of hey, this is what the op meant, but the op was kind of Dickish so my bad. 

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the advantage is that you caught me attacking your character, which was a fictitious one based on a parody in retrospect. the milking is where you attack my character in return, as if you're innocent, i started a fight, and you're heroically finishing it. my comments were based on the attitude of your comments, which turned out to be a parody. i'm not on this board to troll and annoy people, and i assume you aren't either. it was a misunderstanding, so let's just bury it before it escalates. agreed?

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It is buried, best wishes to you and your family with immigration.

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thanks!

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Lol... I think some nerves were hit and others were just confused.

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