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Q: Do you think the name "Great Leap Brewery" is offensive?

I went to this place in Beijing a short while ago. Decent beer, but I was pretty offended by the name. I mean, 35 million people died in the famine resulting from the Great Leap Forward. Is this really an appropriate name for a bar? Am I over analyzing it too much? What do you think (both foreigners and Chinese users)?

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Rupert Murdoch‘s Chinese wife used to have a name Deng Wenge(changed to Deng Wendi later), which means the cultural revolution.... Many Chinese people born during the Great Leap Forward time were given names like "跃"“跃进” which means "leap forward". They are in their 60s now if they are still alive. I had a neighbor like that. Maybe they never bothered to change their names.

 

But yeah it was past and now it's a different thing. People commercialize history to earn money or get popularity despite it's actually such a tragedy.

 

There are many things that offend me or at least make me feel very uncomfortable. But there is little I can do or change. Maybe I shouldn't bother much to care.Or just live with it.

 

I'm Chinese and my grandmother didn't survive the great famine. Sad story.

Hulk:

I'm usually on board with your posts and enjoy them, but I'm downvoting you this time for saying you shouldn't care, or that there's nothing you can do. That's precisely the same mentality that keeps China where it is now.

 

China would change for the better if you and others stand up for what's right, and condemn what's wrong. The power of one individual is much stronger than the Chinese seem to realize.

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Scandinavian:

Damn straight Hugger.

 

Complaining about stuff is what makes the west great. (no sarcasm here)

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Hulk:

Hugger is back to give hugs.

 

Seriously, ohChina, you have a great and beautiful country... but it's being looted dry and ran to the ground by corruption. Stand up and do something about it, or future generations will have to continue to suffer.

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I do think it is a shitty choice of name, yet it does not hurt my feelings..

ohChina:

That's not a good thing to be sarcastic about. And when China's government says it hurts Chinese people's feelings, it usually does hurt a lot. 

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Amonk:

Not to be rude, but there are certain men in foreign countries who also get offended at the slightest upsetting thing. The difference is that an American can openly call another American a pussy when he's being one. 

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Dunno Scandinavian, I'm kind of on ohChina's side in this instance of "hurt feelings".

 

The few times I've been to Great Leap, I've found it very uncomfortable that it's a bunch of foreigners getting shit-faced and being loud late at night in an old hutong ally while a middle-aged Chinese woman whose parents or grandparents likely lived through GLF cleans everyone's glasses. 

 

I can see how this one would actually hurt, government blah blah blah aside.

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Scandinavian:

as I wrote. It is a poor choice of naming. However, as life would have it, if you have alcohol, you will have shitfaced westerners being loud, that is the law of nature more than anything to do with the label. 

 

This name is about as tasteful in my mind as a German beer named after a concentration camp, however, it does not hurt MY feelings. 

The thing is, those whose feelings are in fact hurt have no way of complaining, or letting their hurt be heard, as the GLF is not a shameful part of history to those who again and again use the "buuhuuuu someone is hurting the feelings of our country" as the whining little bitches they are. Of course it is an offensive name, but it's no different than the naming used for e.g. spaceships during recent years.

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At the very least, I would quesiton the taste of the name.....

I do not think I would patronize a place with a name like that however. It just would feel like I was trivializing an historical event.

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It is no more offensive than the "Heineken" ad that shows a bunch of 20 somethings raising a giant beer bottle in a way that is a complete mimic of the famous photo "raising of the flag on Iwo Jima".

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No they are two different names that have some common words. So you are saying you just don't want to hear anything with 'Great Leap' in it? Doesn't make sense. You can't just get rid of a name because somebody decided to name that event as such with the words 'Great Leap' in it! 

 

 

darkstar1:

Context Silva, think context...

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There are cookies, bookies and too many rookies for me to sit here trying to be a hooky! Looky Looky don't call me a wooky. Touchy Touchy Feely Feely Spicy Spicy Nicey Nicey & that's what the doctor Ordered!!

 
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I think I'll just go to Malty Dog or Slow Boat instead. Great Leap is overrated in my book, and the name doesn't help any.

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