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Q: Is this global warming, no climate change a scam from both sides?

http://realclimatescience.com/2016/03/noaa-radiosonde-data-shows-no-warming-for-58-years/

 

i dont really car one way or the other, but i remember a professor in college in 1981 telling me that gases, pollution, etc.  would block the sun like aluminum foil blocks heat in a microwave and the earth would actually get cooler. his explanation was more logical than any thing i have read from either side of the arguement since.

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what is and isn't exactly in dispute is far from set in stone. If you look carefully on climate denial websites, there are many different viewpoints:
- Global warming is a myth intentionally created by the carbon credit industry.
- Global warming is a myth created by alarmists and upheld by the prideful or misguided scientific community.
- Global warming is real, but not anthropogenic.
- Global warming is real, but there's nothing we can do about it, so let's get ready to adapt.
- Global warming is real, and it's such a great thing for us.
- It's not global warming, it's cooling!
- and many many more.

There are so many angles of attack, that's you can't even make accurate statements about what the denialist community agrees about. And any and all articles are welcome on denial websites. Why? I think it's because any articles that serve to cast doubt on global warming achieve exactly the same goal, no matter what they actually say

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Advance societies and advance technology usually solve the problems without all the world having a hissy fit or paranoia.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-turn-co2-stone-climate-134512197.html

 

turning c02 into stone in 2 years instead of thousands of years, what a novel idea.

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Could globally powerful organizations conspire via various agendas for a consensus in order to enforce a global "Carbon Tax" on all denizens of the planet. Absolutely!

 

Will it happen ? Probably.

 

Why will it happen ?  b/c its been done repeatedly throughout history, to include, but not limited to: (1) masterminding the use of fractional banking coupled with fiat currency and other hokus-pokus stuff to control and dominate the masses.  (2) "reefer madness", demonizing cannibis/hemp. (3) peak oil (?) (4) global warming morphing into global climate change...why the change in the name all of a sudden?! (its b/c the increasing in temps wasnt consistent enough, so they changed it in order tfor it to be more flexible). Lastly, and most importantly. there is massive amounts of money to be taken from the people of the world...a legalized robbery of sorts especially if it is agenda driven and not scientific method driven.

 

 

So... in the future expect to be paying a carbon tax, regardless if global climate change is occurring or not, and regardless if it is solely humanity the ones causing it...aka anthromorphic climate change (ACC)

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http://www.brothersjudd.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/reviews.detail/book_id/174

 

 

Go ahead, OP  buy the book and lets get your unbiased opinion. It was published in 1992, so surely 1/4 of a century is enough time to see if any/all/none of the predictions proved to be accurate/inaccurate.

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nohttps://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/09/solar-physicist-sees-global-cooling-ahead/

 

Now it's time to change their minds. warming to cooling, cooling was the 80's, what a seesaw of horse shit.

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http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/global-warming-extremists-t...

"Climate Change: Global warming advocates like to pretend they are open-minded, all about science. But let someone else's science get in the way of their "consensus," and you find out how little they really believe in science."

link continues to recent article.

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@silverbutton1

Not surprising coming from the Investor's Business Daily. An anti-environmental publication that is a lightning rod for unscientific denialism in all its forms (DDT is good for you and second hand smoke is too). My favourite editorial from the IBD was the one about ObamaCare and how if Steven Hawking had lived in England then the evil "socialized medicine" of the NHS would have killed him. It turns out that Steven Hawking does live in England and he praises the support of the NHS for being alive today.

Zharkova's findings on sunspots have little to do with anthropogenic climate change. Zharkova didn't mention climate change in her study.

From USA Today:

“It’s complete garbage,” said Gavin Schmidt, the director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies. “(The research is) not uninteresting, but it’s like people worrying about the cost of their latte when they can’t pay their mortgage payments."

Jason Funk, a senior climate scientist for the climate and energy program at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said the ice age premise flies in the face of a much more compelling body of scientific evidence: global warming.

“We’re living in a time when human activity has created so many emissions of heat trapping gases in the atmosphere that that effect is now swamping the effects of these cycles of sun energy hitting the earth,” he said. “Because of the human-driven effect on the climate we’ve seeing now, the importance of the sun dynamic is somewhat diminished relative to what people are doing to the climate system.”

Anthropogenic climate change is happening.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Climate_science_opinion2.png

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http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/03/paris-climate-accord-green-fund-america-paid-billion-united-nations

 

so america pays a billion dollars and china and india pay zero, what could possibly be wrong, yes, it is unfortunately a complete scam. The science may be true or not true, does not matter, a shakedown is a shakedown, Al Capone would be proud.

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Many times I thought that too. A scam that benefits mass control, new collective consciousness set up and money, a lot of money making.  A mean to a lucrative end underwent by the new ideology, a religion of the Earth, the Gaia thing and all that made it possible, the pantheism. 

Since people have been fashioned to the emptiness, so much so advertised through mass media, the same tools serve to the new  propaganda, a new us, a catalytic push  towards an identity that let the few to refill this empty space with guilt and a sense of redemption, of course...as long as you pay the fees. 

 

http://www.pantheism.net/earth

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If you can't tell me how many genders there are, I'll ignore your ability to predict the weather 100 years from now. 

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2017/06/07/californias-endless-winter-8-feet-snow-still-ground-june/102586278/#

 

Snow skiing in June, god I love global warming, pass the hot chocolate and marshmellows, damndevil honey you want to fool around in the hot tub too, life is good.

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the earth has been warming for 50000 years when the average temps were minus 68 c maybe its the natural process of the universe al gore his movie about global warming which was full of lies said we would have floods in 10 years islands would disappear that was 12 years ago its the fleecing of the people to take and or invest in green tech which is owned by al gire and his croonies while they get on there private jets do as i say not as i do

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https://realclimatescience.com/2017/07/latest-from-the-greenland-meltdown/

 

Greenland is melting fast at -33C, visit before it's gone.no

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/25/al-gores-new-group-demands-15-trillion-to-fight-global-warming/

 

How does this man sleep at night? Does he have any shame at all?frown

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Often enough I am surprised by people who live in denial of climate changes, maybe they live in some freezing cave all year round their whole life, or they have a weak memory of what the four seasons are like when they are kids, or numbed by money (but hey, even among daluren plenty are noticing the changes and these ones certainly are not climate scientists, but they can use their own eyes and memory). 

 

Instead of intellectual masturbation, arguing this and that I for one don't understand why, for those who do not have a science background, use their own experience as a test.  

 

If you have difficulties in trusting yourself, ask other people around you , who you grow up with, and see if their memory about the length of the four seasons, how long the summers are, what people wear during winters back then...etc. matches yours.

 

Another way is to ask experienced fashion designers, merchant and garment manufacturers the type of winter garment they make and sell decades ago. Most of these folks should still be alive. At times, it crosses my mind if some of these climate blind folks have crocodile skins or some malfunctioning nerve system, disabling their ability to notice heat or cold! LoL

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Pence claims the world is 6000 years old.

 

Its about time he produced evidence.

 

After all, how the fuck can ice ages hundreds of thousand years ago be weather, when the earth was ceated by God only 6000 years ago?

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Canada is enjoying some very warm weather this summer, depending on how you look at it.

The Arctic ice has melted to the point that we may not need ice breakers in about a decade. The polar bears will be gone, I'm positive this is a political ploy.

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The down votes will tell you that the reader didn't know I was being sarcastic. Dumald  reaffirmed that the USA was staying out of the Paris accord so the few thousand coal miners in the states could keep their jobs, and coal is cheap . Remember; Trump is a business man. Almost all businessmen are not concerned about the long term future.

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