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Q: Good Chinese employers?

Has anyone ever had a Chinese employer they ve found to be decent honorable and straightforward to deal with. Or is it always the same? Are they always vague with contract details? do you always feel screwed in some way?

9 years 2 weeks ago in  Business & Jobs - China

 
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I think my company has been fairly honest with me. Yes. They have done some typical Chinese business practices. But, i have always been paid on time, they honored my contract requests, and they have never made me feel unsafe or cheated. Maybe they are the exception to the rule. Do they do things that piss me off sometimes? Yes. But, no more so than any American company has done to me in the past.

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I think my company has been fairly honest with me. Yes. They have done some typical Chinese business practices. But, i have always been paid on time, they honored my contract requests, and they have never made me feel unsafe or cheated. Maybe they are the exception to the rule. Do they do things that piss me off sometimes? Yes. But, no more so than any American company has done to me in the past.

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Overall, there are has been a couple I would say were pretty decent but still screwed up in the long-term. From my experience, there are usually three types of employers in China:

 

1) The ones that will try to use you and make your life difficult because they are insecure or only care about money/face.

 

2) The ones that will try to help you and run a successful business but their own ignorance or ego blinds them in the end and they lose all their teachers and go bankrupt or get fired or something...

 

3) The ones that are very good employers and do everything right (sometimes above and beyond). Unfortunately, these kinds don't last too long... cherish them while you can.

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Like Nash, I feel my company is quite good.

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trustworthy employers are few and far between.

i believe it's an innate human impulse to want to live in a trustworthy community and be trustworthy. but the CCP is stirring massive trouble with their divide and conquer strategy on the people. it takes tremendous willpower to not give in to temptation and peer pressure, when every subliminal message in this society tells people to default on what little trust they have gained.

there are some. they're often young, and their attitudes are ridiculed as naive by elders. elders who are angry at what futile altruism might be costing their family. but egoism requires a great deal of deception, so it can be amusing to watch the feeble attempts at selfishness, copied from others who also don't have a clue. most westerners are better at being greedy, while still managing to be trusted and trustworthy.

Chinese society doesn't reward altruism OR penalize egoism. this is not China's natural state, though CCP propaganda tries hard to promote this view. the disfuntionality is by design, and won't change until the government lets it. but even societies where the benefits of altruism vs. egoism are nearly the same, most people choose altruism if they can, and egoism if they feel they can't. that bodes well for humanity.

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The sheer volume of people in the country doesn't promote the necessity of a 'good boss'.

the only loyalty is to family and guanxi (and the mighty RMB)

Employee looks at you cross-eyed?

Fire him for someone who will kow-tow.

Employee efficient but expensive? Steal their ideas and hire someone cheaper.

 

We all know how sensitive the Chinese are even to common sense suggestion, and if the suggestion does not fit in with the ego of the individual, you are a bad person.

 

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