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Q: Has anyone dealt with Satifirst human resources (teacher agency) in the past?

I've been seeking English teaching work in China and I have been in touch with Satifirst, a recruitment agency based in Shenzhen. I was wondering if anyone has dealt with them in the past and what they are like? I realise dealing with a school directly is much better, however I am in Thailand just now and every job posted seems to be through an agency. 

 

I am dubious to this as I was sent a contract after a 20 minute Skype interview. They have then told me that I will not know what school I will be placed in until I arrive in Shenzhen and do some training. 

 

 

2 years 15 weeks ago in  Teaching & Learning - Shenzhen

 
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"They have then told me that I will not know what school I will be placed in until I arrive in Shenzhen..."

 

That's a good sign that you'll be farmed out to schools that DO NOT have the SAFEA license to hire foreigners...which is illegal.

 

Only IF the actual school is licensed to hire foreigners can an agency legally place you there.

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Search and ye shall find....

 

http://answers.echinacities.com/question/has-anyone-worked-or-heard-sati...

 

they get complaints in this topic but sometimes anonymous posts used to be added to bad mouth companies. 

 

More here: http://www.shenzhenstuff.com/m/discussion?id=1343813%3ATopic%3A8009648

 

you could try searching yourself online...the above took 5 minutes! Maybe more information out there. Good luck. 

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"They have then told me that I will not know what school I will be placed in until I arrive in Shenzhen..."

 

That's a good sign that you'll be farmed out to schools that DO NOT have the SAFEA license to hire foreigners...which is illegal.

 

Only IF the actual school is licensed to hire foreigners can an agency legally place you there.

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if you are not already in china they have to send you all docs to your homecountry to apply working permit

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If they sent you a contract, then it should have the specific school listed. If it does not, then the contract is nothing to you. Either the company is not legal. Or, they are farming you out. Either way, I would say adios to them. Always trust your gut feeling. Contracts should always list your school on them. Read every part of your contract and question everything. If it is vague, make it firm. If you think something needs to be added or changed, get it done. I know contracts don't hold much water in China. But, it is the only thing protecting you. No agency or school is going to look out for your interests. They are too busy looking out for their own. So, be firm. That does not mean you have to come across as an asshole or a dictator. But, you need to show that you are serious about your personal welfare. I have two rules. 1) Don't mess around with my money and 2) don't play games with my visa and residence permit.

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What I meant was, the OP talked about signing a contract before even seeing the school - not even knowing WHERE he will work.

 

If a Z visa is given by an AGENCY, and the agencies name is written on the FEC/AEP but he works for another company altogether - that's deemed illegal employment

 

Most company names are written with the city at the start such as 北京市....(company name here)     广州市。。。。company name here..   

 

What I was trying to point to the OP is signing a contract with an agency is meaningless. the SAFEA contract with the school AND the teacher is the one that counts; and if he's caught with a Z visa sponsored by Company A but working for B - that's illegal employment.  Just a friendly warning as MOST teachers fall for the whole F visa tourist visa scam by agencies.

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About that linkhttp://sie.dlut.edu.cn/info/10112/86230_6.htm

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Web link must be always posted below or above the text:

 

http://sie.dlut.edu.cn/info/10112/86230_6.htm

 

That's good web link. Thx!

 

However, in China that's only theory, especially if one is working in small city.

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I'm dealing with them now as I type this (Satifirst)

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dont go threw an agency many schools hiring direct if u need a school let me know our school is hiring in xian

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dont go threw an agency many schools hiring direct if u need a school let me know our school is hiring in xian

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