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Q: Has anyone found that China descriminates against married couples when it comes to hiring?
Lately I have applied for new work in China, I keep getting turned down because I am married and with a new born baby.
It seems schools only want to deal with single teachers.
9 years 32 weeks ago in Business & Jobs - China
It depends from my experience.
If the girl is a foreigner then they are happy as a pig in shit because they get a kind of 2 for 1 deal. That is assuming they can hire both of you (which they will try their best to do).
If girl is a Chinese woman... they don't want any part of it! Why? They don't like see foreigners with Chinese women? Nope.
It is because the Chinese wife will get you out of situations where they may try to manipulate you or deceive you. The Chinese wife will know what is right and wrong in China and get mad at them for trying to take advantage or she may even try to take advantage of the situation herself. Schools usually want dumb, naive and foolish foreigners to control and don't want to compete with a Chinese woman or have her foil all their attempts. Not all schools but the bad ones.
Well, lots of schools provide housing. Housing one person is considerably less of a hassle than housing two people and a new born baby.
Maybe you should try applying for work at places that don't offer housing, just a housing allowance. And of course, you could always just not tell them that you are married with a child.
Are you applying for a job just for you or are you applying for a job for both you and your wife? From my experience of working in HR in China I have found that the Chinese are cautious about hiring couples because if one turns out to be a bad employee they end up losing two staff members instead of one.
swampfox:
Just for me , but they say housing is only for 1 person not a couple.
icnif77:
@swamp: School won't gave you big apartment, if they'll hire you only! They'll give you single apartment. If you demand bigger apartment, because you are three, they won't hire you. This isn't West!
Go with 'allowance', you'll see it probably won't be enough to rent big place. But, if they grant you allowance, you can add some money, and get bigger place.
There was young couple (un-married) from US at my present school. It was their 1st ESL job in China. They lived in one apartment, provided by Fujian School.
Rep. told me as soon as I arrived to the city, that they did great job, and he'll show me their lessons. School would like I teach the same way.
I never saw lessons, and I won't be working here, but it was obvious School didn't object their un-married 'couple-ing' or anything else.
I always write reply first, and then read whole OP thing.
Apply at School with notice 'I would like to have housing subsidy, if possible!' Then, you tell them the reasons for that.
I think, your life will be much easier, if you just move on, when rejected for job, then try to 'dissect' whole thing.
If I don't like School's apartment (on Campus, too small, and so on), I ask for 'apartment allowance' right away! You should do the same, IMO.
When i first came to China, i came with my long time girlfriend. And people seemed really enthusiastic about hiring a couple. Have had some mentions that couple are more stable and reliable.
It depends from my experience.
If the girl is a foreigner then they are happy as a pig in shit because they get a kind of 2 for 1 deal. That is assuming they can hire both of you (which they will try their best to do).
If girl is a Chinese woman... they don't want any part of it! Why? They don't like see foreigners with Chinese women? Nope.
It is because the Chinese wife will get you out of situations where they may try to manipulate you or deceive you. The Chinese wife will know what is right and wrong in China and get mad at them for trying to take advantage or she may even try to take advantage of the situation herself. Schools usually want dumb, naive and foolish foreigners to control and don't want to compete with a Chinese woman or have her foil all their attempts. Not all schools but the bad ones.
I got limited to job applying because I am not married.Coporates worry about stability.
I doubt it has to do with discrimination. Money. The last year when I was applying I found most schools wanted the FT to live in a 25 square meter campus dorm, or a shared apartment. Some schools even wanted the FT to pay the Utilities for these kind of arrangements. Both of these options would imply that you wouldn't live under these conditions if you were married.
