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Q: Have you met any religious Chinese?
I've been in China for a little while and always found it fascinating meeting religious Chinese. Most of the ones I met were Christians. They often have 'adapted' interpretations of things that would make practicing Christians scream heresy. Most interesting is how they manage to reconcile fundamentally Buddhist philosophy and semi-superstitious Chinese beliefs with religion.
You met any strange ones?
Met a few devout followers of Islam here mainly the Ughyur people.
yes Muslims and Christians..but the fun thing is this other group of "Believers" who say "i believe in fate" and every time they want to do something they just say "If fate asks for it.it will happen" and they stay where they are..........i respect the muslime and christians but the guys with the fate thingy are full of non-sense...i wish they can say "If am hungry..food will come to my mouth"
I am at a coffee shop trying to enjoy a conversation with a friend and 4 Chinese women sit at the table next to me and have a 45 minute (in English) circle prayer. Then they spent the next 45 minutes congratulating themselves for being so christian in Chinese.
yes
Buddhists
Christians
btw. all Christian religions are interpretations and adaptations, based on Judaism and New testament. Then - depending on about which "sect" of Christianity we are talking about... was interpretations and adds.
So it is with Buddhism 
Yes, I have met quite a few. My Chinese "Mei Mei" and I met in Church, and she and her husband were a GREAT help teaching me the do's and dont's in Chinese culture when I was new in China and living in guilin.
My last GF was Muslim, and while not as strict as many others (after all, she was dating me, a Roman Catholic) she would indeed pray three times a day (rather than five), in addition to not eating pork. If something good happened she would praise Allah and if it was really good, she would pray to Him in thanks.
Another friend of mine, she almost became a Buddhist nun, but left at the last minute. However, she still goes to temple every week, and twice a year, summer and winter, she will spend two weeks in a Temple meditating.
I do have other friends and students and acquaintances who follow the above religions, I just wanted to mention the ones with whom I have or had a closer relationship.
The religious people I have met in China are just like the religious people anywhere else in the world. Complete retards without the ability for logical thought.
giadrosich:
Lol. I guess that includes Martin Luther King, Jr., Blaise Pascal, Copernicus, Rene Descartes, Dr. John Pokinghorn, John Locke, Isaac Newton, Louis Pasteur, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Augustus, Francis Shaffer, G.K. Chesterton, Dr. Ravi Zacharias, C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and on and on and on.
Yep. Sounds like a retarded and illogical bunch to me.
lokethebloke:
Giad Sorry, can't stop myself. Two more for your list - G W Bush and Mitt Romney.
donluis:
All religions are based on faith. Faith is believing in something you can't prove. If there was any religion out there based on facts that everyone could prove beyond a shadow of doubt, then there wouldn't be thousands of religions. There would only be one. It's because you can't prove any religion true or false that you have so many of them. You can quote religious texts with coincidences or what seem like predictions, however that is true for many religions. Which one is right? No matter what you believe, everyone thinks they have it right. Even if they are just following their parents religion, the religion that is predominant in their society, or the first religion they came across, usually after or during a hard time in their life. Very few "religious" people are that way after a "spiritual journey of truth" done with completely unbiased appraisal of all religions before deciding which one was right. Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Islam, Buddhist, polytheist, Taoist, Shinto, Etc. Etc. Etc. Which one is right? I have friends and family that believe all kinds of things. Is it easier to believe that one out of many is right or that they are all wrong? Think about it....
GuilinRaf:
There are some, called "Universalists" who believe that ALL are right. That the Being(s) who created the Universe communicate to the different people of Earth in the easiest way that their culture will accept them.
giadrosich:
@Loke. Ummm...I thought we were talking about people who weren't retards!
In the south they are all buddhists...I have been dragged many times to temples. I consider it an experience but nothing more.
When I first met my girl friend, she asked if I wanted to go to church with her. I was surprised to see a big church full, no way I'd see that at home.
yeah, i met lot of religious people and i meet them every day,because i go to mosque all the time and i see lot of Chinese religious people there every day ,
All religions are based on faith. Faith is believing in something you can't prove. If there was any religion out there based on facts that everyone could prove beyond a shadow of doubt, then there wouldn't be thousands of religions. There would only be one. It's because you can't prove any religion true or false that you have so many of them. You can quote religious texts with coincidences or what seem like predictions, however that is true for many religions. Which one is right? No matter what you believe, everyone thinks they have it right. Even if they are just following their parents religion, the religion that is predominant in their society, or the first religion they came across, usually after or during a hard time in their life. Very few "religious" people are that way after a "spiritual journey of truth" done with completely unbiased appraisal of all religions before deciding which one was right. Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Islam, Buddhist, polytheist, Taoist, Shinto, Etc. Etc. Etc. Which one is right? I have friends and family that believe all kinds of things. Is it easier to believe that one out of many is right or that they are all wrong? Think about it....
mArtiAn:
Yeh, I can clear this up because I know which one is right, it's the one we follow in our local parish, the Parish of Our Souls. We are all 'Modern Day Adentists' and practise spiritual law according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John McClane, the guy from the movie Die Hard, 'cause that ruled, and in his light we will all rule, forever and ever, yipee kayeymen.
giadrosich:
@Doniuis: That's why one studies epistemology and teleology. To a large degree, faith is based upon logic...believe it or not.
yes.i met one girl and one boy yesterday night.when i am drink at KFC.they ask me whethe believer Jesus.They introduced something about the god and soul.Tell me god and soul are exist around our world.
abcstrong:
yeah.i tell them some thing about monster.do you believe Jesus?
brisguy:
Well Jesus was a person and fact of his existence is there. However do I believe he did all the things mentioned in the bible as fact is no. just a man with importance in that era like Ghandi of the modern times, and who knows 300years from now people might be talking up bs about Ghandi or Mandella on what they did.
giadrosich:
@brisguy. Then Jesus was an insane man, and doesn't deserve to have any followers.
brisguy:
Not saying he is insane just the bible is not a history book. The bible is a book of teachings not historical fact.
giadrosich:
This is not the time and place (on a public forum) for an extended discussion, but we will have to agree to disagree about this one. However, in my research, the collected books and letters, when they present a historical fact about times, dates, cultures, and nations, have never been proven wrong. There are countless examples from external evidence in the field of archeology where it has been proven absolutely historically correct. One example would be the findings of William Ramsay.
The anthology contains historical and scientific data, as well as moral and existential teaching, so you are correct in that respect. But I do understand what you are alluding to.
P>Do the Chinese who call themselves Christians truly understand the meaning,. I attend church every Sunday morning there are 4 services during the day they reckon approximately 3000 in total attendance, my service shows around 450. However they play with and chat on the phones. I usually Bless myself entering the church [ Roman Catholic signing in] as they say. I was approached by a lady a short time ago who informed that I was not a true Christian because I don't this and because I have tattoos. I was dum struck and felt insulted by the remark. Maybe they feel invaded by the one foreigner who attend there.</P>
GuilinRaf:
We have the same jerks back home.
I am a Reconciled Catholic, and I have noticed the same here and home, playing with phones, talking, feet on the "kneelers", etc.
Two years ago, when I went to Mass back home, it was raining and my white shirt got wet. I have a Chinese fish tattoo, which showed through the material. Then, this old lady gave me grief because of it and even complained to the priest about it. He laughed and rolled back his sleeve. There was on his forearm a tattoo with crossed rifles and "Ejercito" and "Espa;a". (Army, Spain).
The lady almost swallowed her dentures...
Scandinavian:
The ones I've met seems to be very into the "praying for stuff" part of Christianity. Pray that the problems with your boss will go away, pray that you will be able to get a new cell phone soon. I am not a practicing Christian myself, but I do know friends back home who are true believers in God, and they would never use their religion as a way of benefiting themselves, but as a way of helping people around them
