Chinese students have more respect to teachers (who earns it) And there is not just sex, drugs on their minds. i have been teaching in a few countries and found Chinese and Indians good students.

"Chinese students have more respect to teachers (who earns it) And there is not just sex, drugs on their minds. i have been teaching in a few countries and found Chinese and Indians good students."

BS, I taught in a highschool for three months once when I was between jobs. The kids were complete little bastards. I had to shame one with a beating once.

Bastards cause you cant control a class and as i said you need self respect 1st.. idiot.

High school and middle school, I find them to be:

Unoriginal
Unfocused
Boring
Lethargic
Patronizing
Rude
Ignorant
Unmotivated
Unimaginative
Uncreative

When I was teaching in the public school system that's how I found "most" of them but not all... Fact be know, the girls in the class seemed the most keen and eager but the boys not worth the powder to blow them to hell for the most part. I tried it all, games of all kinds, my mom being a teacher helped quite a bit I thought and I taught some in my home country both formally and informally and never came across a more brain dead bunch...

Now I teach primarily in Private language companies and it's night and day, I love it, the students 97% adult) are HIGHLY motivated (as they've spent tons of money) and I feel like I did some good at the end of everyday as opposed to feeling like "what have I accomplished?"

I disagree with Fritze on his Chinese take on students but agree with him on his Indian take, I had positive experiences with Indians. Bare in mind Chinese students are taught to follow and not challenge, where as western students are taught to challenge and question all... Who would you find more interesting?

Njord, i didn't teach in public schools. I have my own school and it doesn't come cheap, so the students are serous and the parents make sure the students come here not to waste money.
Yes i do get respect, our school has the best reputation here due to the value results the students achieve back in public school. I'm not teaching, i have teachers but they at least have a 4 year teaching Diploma. Not alike some teachers i found looking to work for us. Just for the record, Njord. I think you a decent person and don't knock you.

Fritze, knowing that then yes you would have motivated students, and your results would certainly be different than someone trying to teach a class of between 50-70 unmotivated high school students!!! Hiring certified western teachers is the way to go (if you're actually out to "teach them" something) I feel though for oral English it isn't necessary as a native 9true native) is enough to help facilitate the students as all you should be doing is focusing on their listening and their being able to produce oral English. Thank you for your kind words, i also think you a good man at heart but at times your posts come off "for me" to pro China... I'm actually an asshole but an honest asshole... I speak my mind, but if I'm wrong I'll take my lumps! Good luck with your school, good schools can do EXTREMELY well here. You should offer wenna7 (50cent) a discount, she could use a bit of help... Sorry for being a dick.

Noo its ok..we here to speak our minds. China is important to me. Im lucky in the 3 years i been here i NEVER met bad people, Sure there are bad elements also. Many dont agree on my outlook and answers but its how i feel.
But please no offense from my side and i never got personal to you. You not a asshole i often read your answers, i think sometimes you amusing.
ps. if you don't have a gf. try Wenna7 if she is much nicer than you think.

my university students never do their homework.
but i dont see them lacking creativity...
i am teaching humanities so no homework and bad english makes everything soooo hard

I've taught adults in three countries, and I can confidently say that Chinese adult students are the most uncooperative, pig-headed, stubborn students in the world. A lot of it has to to with race/status cultural issues. Prepare to have to silence grown adults who insist you are pronouncing words wrong in your native language, or who insist that the letter "t" "you gou", or who angrily scream "I NO LIKE YOU SAY! Foreigner always no teacha grammar, I know you no you country teacha grammar! Chinese speaka Engrish grammar... SO GUDA THAN YOU. Always foreigner teach conversation English you pick topic have chat, I learn listen." If you're foolish enough to take their advice, they'll get even angrier because typically they can't understand a frigging thing you say, because their whole English-learning philosophy has always been "Do nothing, put in no effort, watch a foreigner humiliate himself and you'll learn it like a a passive sponge." I ask them, "Why doesn't everyone who watches American movies speak perfect English?" and their answer is usually racial slurs.

Always hold your ground. If anyone seems to be challenging you, tell them this is your classroom, and they've spoken out of turn and insist they leave. Set out strict and detailed rules whenever you get a new class ("No swearing, no insults, no whining, no hitting, no  horseplay, no passing note, etc") and have a Chinese friend make a bilingual copy. Rever to it constantly. Never show anger. Treat the adults as you would teach middle school students in any other country. If they sense you're not the classroom alpha male they'll rip you to shreds.

well i used to study with lot of chinese students in the university of Birmingham uk, what i felt they cant express  in depth oraly but they are good writers.
i think on the whole they are good and intelligent students, they work hard no doubt but in the end i would also say all the fingers are not same.

I agree with Njord about middle and high schhol students,you have to be ultra strict as they have little respect for foreign teachers,calling you names in Chinese which i dont accept and a phone call to a parent soon spreads round school,most Chinese students are overworked,so its hard to make comparisons with western kids two totally different outlooks on life

I myself  have only limited expirience with students in China
however I think it depends where you are to a large degree.
being a foreigner in a out of the way place has it's advantages
I found in the low income cities the students try harder because they understand what their parents are going without so as to give them a better life and in the future a better life for the family. I know that in bigger cities it would be diffrent
compare that to
when I come home and get these lazy little shits that are only there because the goverment is picking up the tab or because their unenployment payments will be cut off
I will always go the extra mile for the kids who try to do their best
as for the one's that think I will do their work for them
Dont let the door hit you on your way out

in los angeles once the best education system 20 years ago have been taken over buy the unions and illigals its worst than most third world countries now

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They work very hard, study hard, but have no experience thinking outside of the box other than repeating what they were told.