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Q: If the China bubble burst , would be the end for english teachers?
I was eating my super expensive and disgusting lunch in the middle of shanghai when I suddenly I got a call from my country, my peruvian friend saw a news about the shanghai stock market collapsing, I told him, that yep china had become so expensive in the last 6 years and for sure its a bubble, soon or later will burst;
Im not an expert in economy, but I guess since the income of many chinese were high they got loans from the banks to buy stuff like cars and apartments so with money bank they were increasing the price of the things.
If the bubble explode ,I could buy stuff for my contaners more cheaper, since factories will cry to get cash to pay their debts.
I guess also if they china bubble burst ,chinese families will prefer to use their income to pay debts instead of send their kids to learn english, will be the end for english teachers. a new exodus. hundreds of thousand teachers flying back to their countries.
Guaranteed this guy earns less than esl teacher. Big player Peruvian importer yeah sure. Go back to pig farming and your sweaty hairy women.
RandomGuy:
So much that, the despise for Foreign Teachers comes out of jealousy. I know plenty of so called professionals in China, self-employed business folks into trade or halfpats (on local contracts) who think they earn the jackpot when making 15000RMB per month to work their ass off 40 hours per week. In first tier many English Teachers make more than that. No need to add that Foreign Teachers' work is easier, less stressful and they work shorter hours as well. In case of economic turmoil these halfpats are the first to be kicked out because they can easily be replaced with locals, not ESL teachers.
expatlife26:
I agree with dokken here, haha definitely this guy isn't some big shot or he wouldn't be so insecure as to troll a website saying all this mean spirited BS. I think he's full of shit one of those justinF type of anti-expat trolls or just somebody with a huge inferiority complex.
Let me make respectfully disagreeing rebuttal to randomguy though. If you're looking for a career track kinda job, even if the starting pay is less than you'd be making in ESL it still might be worth it. When I first got my job in an FP&A role at I started at 17K in Shanghai. So you know..totally lots of ESL teachers made more than me no question. But then I personally hated being a teacher (different from hating teachers) so my life satisfaction and outlook compeltely skyrocketed. I also now several years into my career make more than 30 and have been for a couple years because I put in a shitload of work in skill development, started an MBA program, do my job very well and present a very professional image. Not everybody is, but haha I was totally bred for the corporate life. For better or worse.
But even that salary, it's fine but definitely not like i'm in a whole social class above high end ESL people or something. But there's going to be a day where i'm gonna start being competitive for things like VP positions, Department Director spots etc.. And those are absolutely going to be a cut above. (though hopefully are also going to be back home). Mid-Senior management roles in a big company are my ultimate goals and because i'm a very effective corporate person I don't think those are unrealistic at all. And every day I work and plan towards achieving them.
BUT...they would be unrealistic goals if i'd stayed in ESL or even now if I tried to get out as a 28 year old I think I would have loads more trouble getting where I want to be. If a few years ago all I cared about was the highest immediate income and the lowest hours yeah ESL would have been def better than my first role at my first salary because the starting hours were a nightmare. But because I dealt with it i'm now in a position to pursue bigger and better things.
Eorthisio, youve been around a while and I know you personally are a really smart ambitious guy with his shit together and you've made a great career in the industry. But you can't act as though a guy like you, a total go-getter, is "normal" for the industry. My hunch is that you've made a great thing out of it because you're NOT the normal, not because you are.
Anyway, my point is while its wrong to shit on ESL teachers as being bums, it's also wrong to laugh at people in entry-level office jobs for making less and working more. Cause the experience itself is also really valuable, especially if you dont see yourself living here forever. I mean hell when I was 23-24 making 17K in the office i totally coulda been making 25K at the same hours in ESL. But for me I had nowhere to go but up. Tons of possibilities. But I just didn't see where the next level is for the kids busting his ass in ESL, even though he was making more.
Robk:
Better to do what you love and make less then to spend a lifetime hating what you do just so you can make money to love a longer life.
If you got a family, this perception changes a little but still... I think if you spend all day hating what you do... it must affect your family as well.
I am with dokken, I don't think this guy is a big shot... at least yet. But at least he ha some big dreams... sounds like he is giving up on them though.
dokken:
@expat this guy is not a go getter. Saying you will go to,China and cut out the middle man when you don't know the language or culture, is just stupid/inept. He s a clown. Either he's lying or he s very poor. Hence his resentment towards esl teacher. Somebody trying to break into another industry like myself, is not better or worse than an esl teacher. The trolling antagonistic comments made by posters like Mike is purely intended to provoke and infer superiority.
I have noticed that the trolls have been people who have been esl teachers in past. I think this is telling. The truth is without pre existing experience and skill sets in engineering, finance or perhaps business, unlikely these people have immediately switched from esl into some ultra lucrative role. But if they had this experience why would they come to China as an esl teacher. Makes no sense. I'm sure it does happen. I'm hoping it does happen. I want to have a future in China without looking at a board again. If I do, I will not be an absolute cock to esl teachers. Assume they are ambitious or unhappy in their role. Really unpleasant vile arrogance. It is trolling which works because of attitudes towards esl which tars the whole industry with same brush. Truth is English skills is most valuable thing foreigners can give to China
The people that could really boast and rub it in people s faces are people who have been sent by companies to China. They generally earn the salary they would back home plus extra package. But they do not do the trolling. They do not even point out that they are not teachers.
This is forum is full of sad dos that reek of bullshit. I call bullshit
expatlife26:
oh no no you misunderstand, I dont think this guy is a go getter at all I was saying that about eorthisio (aka randomguy).
I think if you take gatoloco at face value he's a guy from family with a bit of cash backing him but who lacks any personal initiative or ability to cope.
But I don't think that's what he is, could be wrong, but I think he's just just an anti-expat troll.
You're wrong though that english language is the most valuable thing expats bring to the table here, it's the easiest to take advantage of on our side for sure, but the most valuable thing by far is our initiative to learn, risk & adapt instead of the paint by numbers shit that people do here. To be excellent and not mediocre.
dokken:
Mediocre is coming onto a forum to continuously tell people who have not made it in China, that the reason they have not yet made it is because they are not ambitious and driven like they are. Look at me, I'm wonderful. I'm not in esl. If you are you are a loser. You just don't have the initiative I do. Ex esl teachers doing this. supposedly ex, it's an anonymous forum, so we never really know. When I was an esl teacher I did come on the forum and it did dismay me that people would act like this.
Robk:
@dokken - I don't get why it bothers you so much what guys like Mike or others say against ESL teachers. They do it to get a rise or just because they feel like letting their ego out for a walk lol. Nothing wrong with teaching ESL, what is wrong with ESL is a lot of the people teaching it.
dokken:
That is exactly what they are doing. I just like pointing out you have to be a dick to do this. Nothing wrong with that is there?
Youre perpetuating a myth. The majority of esl teacher are motivated graduates just looking for a year s experience, or people who want some experience to get graduate diploma in teaching or just people who like teaching. Some came to explore China but do an honest jobs. Some are dicks who don't care. Like any job you will get people who are ineffective. It's up to the Chinese to provide quality assurance. I think met one loser out of maybe 20 teachers. A couple were not good but they tried hard. Jealous Chinese and sad trolls try to paint all with same brush
most chinese sit on a lot of cash and dont spend it for stocks, only 15 percent of the population has any investments in stocks, they are also stubborn and will not sell a house at a loss unless it is to pay a debt. if the currency crashes and they ever allow the rmb to float, it would be the end, but this will never happen under the current power because they would lose all power.
this is going to set back their goals for financial blackmail of other countries to agree with them on policies like taiwan, south china sea, the silk road trade route,etc., when you cant control your own financial markets, why should i count on you to help another country control theirs. the plan to be a thorn in the side of the west with money just took a huge timeout for bad behavior or no overseeing regulated behavior would be a better description and they have caused a huge mistrust by their own citizens of the stock market that will take time to get back to any confidence.
it really was a travesty with unintended consequence they may never understand and will probably blame on others rather than admit the truth of their folly.
A great observation.
China -Peru trade 2007. 5.7 Billion. Impressive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Peru_Free_Trade_Agreement
If you get 0,001% of that... wow you are a rich man. Well done to you.
However, Spanish is not a popular language in China, so the chances are that most Peru- China business is probably done in English. Not Spanish.
Have a look on the job boards... do you see job adverts for Spanish teachers?
But I will do you a deal. If you can post a link to a "Spanish speaking expat in China" website... I will go out... buy a hat and eat it.
It has to be a website... in Spanish.. dedicated to China... a Forum... get the drift 
Shining_brow:
http://laredchina.com/
I expect to see the video! Posted, on here, very shortly... :D :D :D
I will allow you to cook it, and use sauces..
(I have no love for this gataloco moron, but your challenge was just too great to resist... as was that wonderful inducement!)
ScotsAlan:
Ha ha ha shining brow. Not sure if your post qualifies... but hey ho... I will eat my hat. I will send the video to your wechat :)
Yah .. but ..Spanish is a big time language in and around USA... Portuguese, not so much...
not sure how Chinese, or Korean, or Thai, or Japanese get along these days... don't really care...... but I do suggest that you learn English if you intend to leave your home town.
English is the world's business language.. I do like Inuit and Swahili and Huuu ayh aht ... but , in order to understand and get along.... I think English is the best..... Huu ayh aht, I will teach you ...some day....
I like Peru.... many friends spent time there... most ended up in jail for a while... coca leaves ...
I think this joker should go home..tail between his legs .... and do a deal from his home..... make the deal... XX your fingers and be happy with your future riches .people do buy masks, made in China, that look pretty Peruvian... sort of...like a mahi mahi , is a tuna, or a snapper is a dorado,,,,,,,
the grass is greener on the other side.
The bubble is not burning actual value : those stocks going down went up mostly with *borrowed* money. It's just overvalued stocks returning close to their actual value. Price trends are not going to change much. Ok, those people who gambled on the stock market lost their savings, which is especially painful in a country with so little social safety net.
Foreign teachers in China are their because there's a demand, there's a market : their job is not some kind of charity given to them. More than ever, education is perceived as one of the factor for a kid's future, so that market isn't going away. Maybe the margin of the school boss might suffer in the long run, and that's it. Ho, and you can eat well and cheap in Shanghai, you're doing it wrong ^^
Dream on, gatostupido. Oh and high prices in Shanghai and an overvalued stock market bought on margin: Not related. no cause n effect. sorry, dumbass. Your not actually that ignorant, are you? Just want to get a reaction, right?
there are so many reasons this has no effect on foreignery peoples teachering english...
What a moron. seriously
Guaranteed this guy earns less than esl teacher. Big player Peruvian importer yeah sure. Go back to pig farming and your sweaty hairy women.
RandomGuy:
So much that, the despise for Foreign Teachers comes out of jealousy. I know plenty of so called professionals in China, self-employed business folks into trade or halfpats (on local contracts) who think they earn the jackpot when making 15000RMB per month to work their ass off 40 hours per week. In first tier many English Teachers make more than that. No need to add that Foreign Teachers' work is easier, less stressful and they work shorter hours as well. In case of economic turmoil these halfpats are the first to be kicked out because they can easily be replaced with locals, not ESL teachers.
expatlife26:
I agree with dokken here, haha definitely this guy isn't some big shot or he wouldn't be so insecure as to troll a website saying all this mean spirited BS. I think he's full of shit one of those justinF type of anti-expat trolls or just somebody with a huge inferiority complex.
Let me make respectfully disagreeing rebuttal to randomguy though. If you're looking for a career track kinda job, even if the starting pay is less than you'd be making in ESL it still might be worth it. When I first got my job in an FP&A role at I started at 17K in Shanghai. So you know..totally lots of ESL teachers made more than me no question. But then I personally hated being a teacher (different from hating teachers) so my life satisfaction and outlook compeltely skyrocketed. I also now several years into my career make more than 30 and have been for a couple years because I put in a shitload of work in skill development, started an MBA program, do my job very well and present a very professional image. Not everybody is, but haha I was totally bred for the corporate life. For better or worse.
But even that salary, it's fine but definitely not like i'm in a whole social class above high end ESL people or something. But there's going to be a day where i'm gonna start being competitive for things like VP positions, Department Director spots etc.. And those are absolutely going to be a cut above. (though hopefully are also going to be back home). Mid-Senior management roles in a big company are my ultimate goals and because i'm a very effective corporate person I don't think those are unrealistic at all. And every day I work and plan towards achieving them.
BUT...they would be unrealistic goals if i'd stayed in ESL or even now if I tried to get out as a 28 year old I think I would have loads more trouble getting where I want to be. If a few years ago all I cared about was the highest immediate income and the lowest hours yeah ESL would have been def better than my first role at my first salary because the starting hours were a nightmare. But because I dealt with it i'm now in a position to pursue bigger and better things.
Eorthisio, youve been around a while and I know you personally are a really smart ambitious guy with his shit together and you've made a great career in the industry. But you can't act as though a guy like you, a total go-getter, is "normal" for the industry. My hunch is that you've made a great thing out of it because you're NOT the normal, not because you are.
Anyway, my point is while its wrong to shit on ESL teachers as being bums, it's also wrong to laugh at people in entry-level office jobs for making less and working more. Cause the experience itself is also really valuable, especially if you dont see yourself living here forever. I mean hell when I was 23-24 making 17K in the office i totally coulda been making 25K at the same hours in ESL. But for me I had nowhere to go but up. Tons of possibilities. But I just didn't see where the next level is for the kids busting his ass in ESL, even though he was making more.
Robk:
Better to do what you love and make less then to spend a lifetime hating what you do just so you can make money to love a longer life.
If you got a family, this perception changes a little but still... I think if you spend all day hating what you do... it must affect your family as well.
I am with dokken, I don't think this guy is a big shot... at least yet. But at least he ha some big dreams... sounds like he is giving up on them though.
dokken:
@expat this guy is not a go getter. Saying you will go to,China and cut out the middle man when you don't know the language or culture, is just stupid/inept. He s a clown. Either he's lying or he s very poor. Hence his resentment towards esl teacher. Somebody trying to break into another industry like myself, is not better or worse than an esl teacher. The trolling antagonistic comments made by posters like Mike is purely intended to provoke and infer superiority.
I have noticed that the trolls have been people who have been esl teachers in past. I think this is telling. The truth is without pre existing experience and skill sets in engineering, finance or perhaps business, unlikely these people have immediately switched from esl into some ultra lucrative role. But if they had this experience why would they come to China as an esl teacher. Makes no sense. I'm sure it does happen. I'm hoping it does happen. I want to have a future in China without looking at a board again. If I do, I will not be an absolute cock to esl teachers. Assume they are ambitious or unhappy in their role. Really unpleasant vile arrogance. It is trolling which works because of attitudes towards esl which tars the whole industry with same brush. Truth is English skills is most valuable thing foreigners can give to China
The people that could really boast and rub it in people s faces are people who have been sent by companies to China. They generally earn the salary they would back home plus extra package. But they do not do the trolling. They do not even point out that they are not teachers.
This is forum is full of sad dos that reek of bullshit. I call bullshit
expatlife26:
oh no no you misunderstand, I dont think this guy is a go getter at all I was saying that about eorthisio (aka randomguy).
I think if you take gatoloco at face value he's a guy from family with a bit of cash backing him but who lacks any personal initiative or ability to cope.
But I don't think that's what he is, could be wrong, but I think he's just just an anti-expat troll.
You're wrong though that english language is the most valuable thing expats bring to the table here, it's the easiest to take advantage of on our side for sure, but the most valuable thing by far is our initiative to learn, risk & adapt instead of the paint by numbers shit that people do here. To be excellent and not mediocre.
dokken:
Mediocre is coming onto a forum to continuously tell people who have not made it in China, that the reason they have not yet made it is because they are not ambitious and driven like they are. Look at me, I'm wonderful. I'm not in esl. If you are you are a loser. You just don't have the initiative I do. Ex esl teachers doing this. supposedly ex, it's an anonymous forum, so we never really know. When I was an esl teacher I did come on the forum and it did dismay me that people would act like this.
Robk:
@dokken - I don't get why it bothers you so much what guys like Mike or others say against ESL teachers. They do it to get a rise or just because they feel like letting their ego out for a walk lol. Nothing wrong with teaching ESL, what is wrong with ESL is a lot of the people teaching it.
dokken:
That is exactly what they are doing. I just like pointing out you have to be a dick to do this. Nothing wrong with that is there?
Youre perpetuating a myth. The majority of esl teacher are motivated graduates just looking for a year s experience, or people who want some experience to get graduate diploma in teaching or just people who like teaching. Some came to explore China but do an honest jobs. Some are dicks who don't care. Like any job you will get people who are ineffective. It's up to the Chinese to provide quality assurance. I think met one loser out of maybe 20 teachers. A couple were not good but they tried hard. Jealous Chinese and sad trolls try to paint all with same brush
Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), International Monetary Fund (IMF), Bawerk.net
Global “dollar” issuance looks like genuine demand based on prior production but it is not. Export powerhouses fall into the trap and think the domestic boom they are living through is because they are exceptional. Old socialist are celebrating the fact that alternative growth “models” can outpace freer societies in the west, but these are often nothing more than pragmatic command economies with little ability to change in times of hardship. Just as Japan thought they could go back to pre-Plaza Accord growth rates by holding on to the old ways in the 1990s, the Chinese will expect the growth miracle to return in 2016 with the “right” policies. It will not. China is heading straight into a zero growth environment, and will be mired there for years to come.
The China bubble is bursting now (not will burst). She has outgrown the export market model and but is unable to proceed because she lacks the talent necessary to innovate. It will be awhile before China can compete with an open International market. What does this mean for expats? It means China will continue to need foreign expertise until she catches up with the rest of the world. These people won't be learning to think creatively from their own teachers. It will take another generation and an education system overhaul.
Now whether or not the government will react to meet the need is another issue altogether. The CCP is in self-preservation mode. Who knows what they will do next.
The CCP won't let China slip into full recession. Their hold on power and their popularity are dependent on China's economic success. If they don't have that then they have nothing. Icnif is right (gasp!). You can't have mega growth year after year. Eventually things had to slow down and that time has come.
Sounds like the OP better go home.
I love talking economics, especially labor economics for some reason.
Without knowing a ton about the industry specifics but trying to think it through, If you're working strictly at public universities it probably won't change anything. China would still need english teachers at the universities. Dont see much reason for that to change and as long as the salary paid in RMB theres no reason the money wouldn't be there to fund it.
I can see a drop in disposable income though making the private language school market a lot tighter though. Fewer students able to pay for private lessons. Obviously they wouldn't all go away, but the days of just being able to walk up to one of those places and get hired full time on the spot would probably be over. Places like EF in nice cities could prolly start asking for Masters degrees cause those jobs would get really competitive.
So what I think would happen on the ground is that the people that are dead set on teaching in China for whatever reason could still do as long as they are natives with degrees but would probably have to start moving out from the big cities to the smaller ones, getting jobs at public facilities out there because the private gigs in big cities would be much harder to get.
Like somebody who isn't going to be taken seriously for a job at FuDa or Tsinghua or other downtown schools in big cities instead of working at a DIsney or EF type place would have to go and work at Anhui State or Henan A&M instead of just hanging around working in Shanghai or Guangzhou.
Think it would kinda give some of the more mobile people a kick in the ass to head home. I still see every native speaker with a degree able get a job teaching in China but the quality of the jobs would go way down. It's easy to hang around in China year after year when you're working in a cushy air conditioned language mill in downtown shenzhen and then going and grabbing a couple drinks with your friends at coco park and taking the subway to a modern downtown home. That’s not a terrible way to live.
But would that person feel the same way about making less than half as much working in the 5th largest city in Henan or something? A place with no western bars, no subway no western food, limited social network of expats. Living in some shitty old apartment the school gives you and complaining about it like icnif77. Nothing else to do really. The jobs might still be there like I said if you’re dead set on working in China, but the quality of life is gonna be totally different.
icnif77:
I came to China to be in the Western bars? Do/did I ever work in big (1st tier) city in China? Did I ever gave an advice, which I wouldn't try with success myself?
I'm in Henan, because that was the only offer I had at that time.
I'm Non-native English teacher in China. Can you write long replies in any other language than that you were born in?
I must say: 'What a moron you are!', since you mentioned my handle.
You're coming out on this threads just to show off your proper English, nothing else much. It's just BS talk with endless spins, 'cause you could say the same with 60% less words in your replies.
icnif77:
Reason for 'I complain a lot' comes from completely different angle, you can't/don't understand!
You are Native English, and whole China seeks for you!
I'm Non native English teacher, working in China with success last 6 years.
'Different angle': ''I respect Contract to the 't'."
I don't drink alcohol, I've never been late or missed the class, and I was sick once for 3 or 4 days (missed classes) in 6 years.
Now, tell me again 'why do I complain a lot'?, or 'how does party A has a right to disrespect the Contract, if party B is top-notch?'
'Don't play Law and Regulations with me, 'cause you'll lose!'. Many did!
expatlife26:
whatever, way to discuss my ideas on employment trends.
No, i didn't need to mention you by name. but i think how you describe all the BS of small city china most of us want no part of it.
If the economy goes south the competition for jobs becomes even higher. English language skills becomes even more important (export trade, jobs with multinationals which pays a lot more). In fact, the worse the economy the more ESL teacher can charge. If ESL teachers unite, they probably can charge 2X the salary they're earning, 3X isn't a dream.
Why? When it comes to money, haven't you heard that mainlanders are the Jews of the East (i.e. shrewd business people)? You moan about the price of your meal as you get ripped off, are you learning? Still haven't figured out what you are dealing with? 
expatlife26:
i dont think collective bargaining is going to fly here.
expatlife26:
the jews of the east?
What's the matter with you?
Besides, there already is a teachers union, which we don't talk about here. Perhaps you should join them!
Go forth! Join the mysterious union!
earthizen:
What's wrong with you? "Jews of the East (i.e. shrewd business people)". It is a compliment. Online dictionaries are free, use them!
Whatever teacher union you are talking about has room for improvements!
expatlife26:
Yeah! Because everyone would take the phrase "Jews of the East" as a well-meaning compliment on business acument!
Clearly i'm just a flunky of the PC police.
China is big, so there isn't a single stock or housing bubble. Shanghai stock may fall, but export quantity will not change. Ghost town house values might plummet, but tier 1 housing won't become any cheaper. Some training mills fail whether it's lower demand or poor management, but the few expats working those jobs simply move on to the next job, kicking out some Peruvian who shouldn't have been teaching English anyway.
Maybe gatoloco got turned down for a teaching side gig, and it really hurt his pride..?
More English teachers from USA are coming. Soon:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-27/most-important-market-trendline...
S&P 500: The trend is your friend... until it ends...
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Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:23 | 6360196ted41776
what is this "market" that you speak of?
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:37 | 6360269JJdog
all just noise, Yellen will start printing money again, biggest santa rally ever coming! If printing money doesn't work, just have few more software upgrades and halt trading when the market crashes. Works everytime.
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:44 | 6360299Hitlery_4_Dictator
exactly.....may I remind everyone here with short memories - October 2014 (no bid)...new all time highs soon
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 16:51 | 6360334summerof71
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 17:21 | 6360433UndergroundPost
Nothing at all to worry about...the Bureau of Labor and Loafers with Statistical Highlights of Individual Timelines (BULLSHIT) says seasonal adjustment will start the cartoon over again any minute now. Go long OCR (Orville Clarence Redenbacher)
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 17:23 | 6360443Bindar Dundat
Just finished a review of retail in my home town. Down 32% year over year. It's coming!
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 17:26 | 6360450knukles
Don't Worry ... It'll get fixed under ObamaCare .... Be Happy
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 17:43 | 6360499Headbanger
No... Moar like CHINA SYNDROME IS ABOUT TO STRIKE!
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 18:03 | 6360558realmoney2015
Buy! Buy! Buy! Look the line is going up! That's good right?
Some people (wall street) will never learn
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 19:02 | 6360712SoilMyselfRotten
Until the most important market trendline since 1987 is broken
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 19:16 | 6360771Gaius Frakkin' ...
I feel a disturbance in the farce.
That looks pretty damn ugly. I wish old joo hag luck, she's going to need it.
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 19:32 | 6360828Pairadimes
Damn weather.
Mon, 07/27/2015 - 19:42 | 6360860new game
looks like a Mt Everest climb. my oh my , look at all the oxy. canisters(buybacks), wow, a frozen corpse (52 week lows). i gotta get out of here(alice cooper), ha...
Well, with china wining the Olympics bid. I assume the end is nowhere near for our beloved English teachers for at least another Decade...
As long as the music keeps playing I will keep dancing. Currency collapse is a fear all over the world. I save in Gold, Silver, & Bitcoin. When the sh*t does hit the fan I can fly to the least screwed up place and live for awhile.
Honestly though I think day to day life in China won't be affected to much by a currency collapse.
I am a spoiled social justice warrior that needs a safe space from the evil world, are you really sure google can set up an app that only tells me happy things and nothing negative, if I move out of my bubble and stop taking pschotropic drugs, I need a guarantee that my life will still be boring and predictable. Damn, I forgot what I was doing, oh yes, a term paper on gender inequality for my Phd in gender studies with an specialization in male shaming, I'm gonna be rich and set up a lesbian library for transexuals, Bill gates eat your heart out.
ANY OTHER DELUSIONS ANYBODY
hippy:
filtering negative news out for western oligarks and their lackeys. that sounds like how the internet has always been run
