expatlife26:

that's funny I also have as my only gun a surplus mosin nagant M44. Just saw it was super cheap and bought on impulse. Never fired it but looks badass

icnif77:

I fancy Glock, 'cause it matches nicely to my speedos ......

diverdude1:

Glock is hard to beat for a modern choice.  must admit I've never fired one, let alone owned one.  Seems like a strong choice for the modern age though.

 speedos?  reminds me of what my ex used to say  

'is that a glock in your speedos, or are u just glad to see me?' except with me she said .45  

icnif77:

No, I was reading your praise to .45 & 'my good AM mood'  = .... 'Glock' can fire underwater ...' was reading somewhere.'

philbravery:

Most cartridges can fire under water however the resistance of the water takes the energy of the projectile away so is only lethal for a couple of feet . More likely the barrel will explode

icnif77:

So, you are saying any gun would suit fine with my swimmers ... . Now, I only have to think about weapon, which wouldn't scare my fish ....

philbravery:

Did you know the same rounds can be used in the Thompson machine gun?

diverdude1:

didn't know that...  never educated myself on the Tommy gun, for a rifle w/ fully automatic capability I was partial to the M16 or AR15. .223cal if I remember correctly.

Shining_brow:

So... why? (the gun, not the ammo usage)

diverdude1:

why the Colt 1911?  Lots of reasons- I'm into Classics, be they cars, clothes, furnishings, movies, music, or firearms.  Second, I'm a WWII history buff, and that was the Allies sidearm of choice (or issuance) during WWII, especially the Pacific campaigns which are my main interest.  Third, me and a group of my best friends all bought one right after HS, we all had one, it was the choice back then.  Fourth, rightly deserved or not the 1911 has a rep of being just about indestructible. Throw it in salt-water, mud, drop it off a cliff and you can still pick it up and fire the thing. Fifth, for me it just has the cool look to it. After all John Wayne carried one.  6. Power- .45 has stopping power. Doesn't have to be a hit in center mass like u might need with 9mm. With any hit from .45 HP the guy is down and unlikely to be getting back up. 7. If in a close-quarters combat situation it doubles as a club (tongue in cheek, but just barely)

icnif77:

'six'.

 You mean, you can also 'sho  -ot' without your reading  glasses on? 

philbravery:

Actually the 45 was used extensively in ww1 by the US. Interesting to note that the colt 1900 was one of the first semi auto with ten shot mag in 38 cal. First used by the USA in the Philippines in 1902.....it is sad i know this

diverdude1:

@77.  sure, you just might not hit anything though 

@phil.   cool details. here's another- 'The pistol has a long and distinguished history with the US Armed Forces. Designed by John M. Browning in cooperation with Colt, it was adopted in the spring of 1911 and dubbed “Model of 1911 US Army Calibre 45.” With a few modifications to make the pistol more user-friendly, it appeared in WW2 as the Model of 1911A1 US Army, though all parts…including the ones modified…remained fully interchangeable with the originals.'

icnif77:

I meant, one doesn't need to be that detailed. In other words, to achieve your goal you must hit a target doesn't matter where and because displayed gun has a lot of power damage at impact will be huge .....

icnif77:

''No, unfortunately I can't!''

P.S.

I am saving my 'down' .... 

I changed my mind ....

Spiderboenz:

Too true, too true. 

There are WAY too many gun control laws. 

icnif77:

Yeah, many gun-movie-stars here-o. 

Point of MA is ability of 'using bare hands at defense'.

Once in prolongated MA training one can explore physical abilities, which are unknown to 99% of sheeple, as ''seeing' movements behind your back"  as one ....

If MA-ist is well versed, she/he won't carry arm, unless duty requires.

So I'd say, if you feel need to have an arm after your MA training, you should go back to the 'wooden -maki-wara- dummy'....

Shining_brow:

You make a good point about the normal, stress-free difficulty in using a weapon to shoot/gouge at a live target.. but if they're correctly trained, then when the real need comes about, then they will be able to function correction.