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Q: Is it a three way race, or a two way race?

Three way would be Russia, Germany and China. Two way is China v Germany.

 

Now that Trump and America are out of the game, who is leader of the world?

 

Note, I don't say free world. But we have to consider France and Canada,

 

Who won G19+1?  Germany?

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Closed, totalitarian dictatorships never lead the world. In the few short periods where China was a world leader it coincided with open and accepting international culture. Democracies bring all their friends, despots stand alone.

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China. I say that because of it's population and economy. China's military is also growing. Russia doesn't count because it's economy (for now) and military are not as powerful. Military because Russia's only claim to superpower status is 10,000 + ICBMs Russia has potential but does not carry the influence (good or bad) China does. Dumald has effectively isolated the United States. Europe will find it necessary to unite to counter China's growing might. Canada is already looking to China to alleviate the dependence on the American economy. Canada has too few people to be a big player (while under the American shadow) despite being at the top of the pack in terms of medicine, innovation, and education.

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Written obviously from the point of view of a Canadian.

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Agreed with Donnie, China is ready for global dominance and who knows might be the first humans to leave earth for a new planet someday (hope I'm alive to witness it). China no matter what will do, can do or at least try to do new things for a better tomorrow.

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Closed, totalitarian dictatorships never lead the world. In the few short periods where China was a world leader it coincided with open and accepting international culture. Democracies bring all their friends, despots stand alone.

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http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/07/11/no-china-isnt-going-lead

 

Great article despite it being from Fox. Liberals conveniently forget their liberal values when they want to kiss China's ass. Look at what China does to Falun members who were 100% harmless. Because I hate Trump, let's look to China

earthizen:

'Because I hate Trump, let's look to China'

 

True, on and off, I see anti-west laowai morons, maybe brainwashed by western communists / poor, sour losers / polyanna / born warmongers / whatever drifting around prc, as if daluren's asses taste better.

 

These laowai wumaos are idiots who are blinded to chinese history and daluren's mass consciousness. These psychos would rather become Nazis and kiss Hitler's ass if you send them back to that era. Hell, maybe they reincarnated from there. LOL

 

These laowai morons obviously do not have an iota of knowledge how CCP treats its own kind, especially those who are the most loyal, supporting CCP for their whole life. It would be fun to watch CCP skins these morons alive.

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Even quoting Fox is like quoting Goebbels if you remember him.  Fox is pure extreme rightwing American redneck lies and propaganda.  And its Murdoch that Aussie scum at his worst.  

 

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The question gave us three choices. So far only China has been chosen for some very good reasons. I think Dumald is an aberration that will be soon replaced. But he was elected for some good reasons. For now I still say China will step into America's place over any other power on earth if the US decides to withdraw from it's leadership role. Unless the EU under Germany can become more united. Democracies also become divided. Hitler already proved a democracy could fail. Japan may follow the same course if Beijing continues it's constant hate message towards Japan for whatever reason. The US was extremely divided on Vietnam. As in the past, the world has always had two major competing powers. Those powers have always fed their populations propaganda.

Marcos_Cisneros:

Hitler only proved that evil can triumph.  But there was Churchill and all those courageous Brits who looked evil in the eye, after Chamberlain failed.  Democracy failed in France because agrarian Catholic provincial France, still a majority in 1939, loathed the Jewish socialist government of Léon Blum et cie. L'Affaire Dreyfus was still quite present in many minds.

And do not be naive ... a majority of the American people ARE resisting Trump.

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Depends on what you mean by 'lead'.

 

If you only mean 'may help dictate financial policies and economics - especially in regards to trade" then maybe China is starting to exert some clout.

 

If you mean in relation of international policy, law, etc etc... then China is a LONG way behind Germany and many other countries. 

 

While the US had (and has) problems, at least they understood the idea of looking international (even if only for profit, and even if often ignoring the rest of the world). The fact that the SCS issue is still around, and China continually ignores its neighbours shows that they will NEVER be a world leader in that sense.

 

It also needs to be remembered that the G20 is a political organisation... which doesn't mean a hell of a lot when it's business and economics that's keeping China afloat. That is, if China keeps on pushing and moving the way it is, then it's going to lose a LOT of power because businesses and traders start moving out of China (taking their money with them), and other countries will start clamping down on Chinese imports and investments.

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Okay. China can't replace the US. So it goes to the EU under Germany: You can't be afraid of Winnie the Pooh

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why do we need a leader for the free world anyway? the last idiot we had in office bowed and said sorry to everybody, and said democracies should evolve independently with out outside interference and supposedly he was smartest president ever. So again why do we need a leader?

 

Progressives and leftist can have it both ways but not the right. Damn, I forgot that rule. sorry.

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no doubt a strong leader is required

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Shining_brow:

As I recall, the last few 'leaders of the free world" took it upon themselves to invade sovereign nations, assassinate democratically elected leaders, over-turn governments, and just screw over millions (billions?) of people, all in the name of a few bucks in their pockets (all the while, shaking hands with sheiks who are infamous for human rights abuses of the worst kinds)...

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you mean the last guy who was at war for the entire 8 years of office who promised to get America out of both of those wars and killed over 4000 people with drones instead of troops like Clinton did in Kosovo, bombing civilians from the air. Thankfully that hypocrite professor is gone. If your a warmonger just admit it, but saying democracies should evolve while blowing shit up and forcing the issue makes you a glorious hypocrite.

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