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Q: New Passport Registration with PSB!
I recently received my new UK passport from the application center in Beijing. I had no free pages left in my old passport and had to get this new passport for my next Z visa renewal.
My employer is currently trying to get my new Z visa but the PSB are saying that I did not update them quick enough with my new passport number and within the 10 day window They are now trying to obtain money from me. Anything between 0RMB-10,000RMB as i missed this magic window. Neither myself or my employer knew anything about the rules in China regarding registration of a new passport. May be this is just our ignorance but I thought my employer would at least know the rules in their own country. I only know the 24 hour registration rule and well as that when you exit/enter China.
I am married to a Chinese girl, have a Chinese son so I thought the would give me a break but hey no, they want to fine me.
Has anyone experienced the 10 day rule or have any advice on what I should do next?
Kind regards
6 years 45 weeks ago in Visa & Legalities - China
I just got my new passport on May 25th. I knew I had to go to the PSB within 10 days only because on the bottom of the receipt I got from the Canadian embassy there was a note stating this.
"Canadians holding Chinese residence permits are required to transfer/renew the permit at the local Public Security Bureau Exit and Entry Administration Divsion within 10 days of obtaining a new passport. Failure to do so may result in penalty by local authorities."
ironman510:
And just to emphasize, because the dates and your new info needs to match the timing in the local police station computer for your temporary registration form.
Hi
Sorry for the mess, its a hassle, but yes that 10 day window to update your information is real and fine is real. I think the fine will only be Y300~Y500 depends, my friend had the same issue as you are having, but you said you have a wife and family, so just do what they want and suck it up. Family and support out weight this issue, stay legally working, get your RP and don't get pissed off enough that you feel you should turn to a Q visa.
Ironman, do you have a web link explaining the 10 day rule. The reason I ask is that I want to create a document to share with my colleagues so they don't go through this.
Thanks in anticipation.
ironman510:
Hi Man, I don't have a link as this was a hands on experience, he worked at Wall Street English in 2014 when one day he called HR with the same issue you're having and the HR was helpless to talk the PSB out of it, he paid Y500 due to being his 6th day after 10 days. As we understand it this is related to being in the country illegally "temporary registration wise ", that sheet you get printed at the local police station for where you live and passport number is more important than allot of people realise, if the temporary registration isn't updated with your new whatever like an address, new visa, temp visa, new name, new passport number and you go to the main PSB station for a visa than it's like getting your hand caught in the unknown mouse trap you didn't see under the bed.
I just got my new passport on May 25th. I knew I had to go to the PSB within 10 days only because on the bottom of the receipt I got from the Canadian embassy there was a note stating this.
"Canadians holding Chinese residence permits are required to transfer/renew the permit at the local Public Security Bureau Exit and Entry Administration Divsion within 10 days of obtaining a new passport. Failure to do so may result in penalty by local authorities."
ironman510:
And just to emphasize, because the dates and your new info needs to match the timing in the local police station computer for your temporary registration form.
I don't know if this is relevant to you but they also tell you to have your visa transferred to the new passport, and this is complete rubbish-I have changed passports and nobody cares if you don't transfer the visa.
I went through similar situation a couple of months ago.
I'd thought i had time to renew my full passport before applying for my ne RP. Ha! What a rookie. Mu company jad already started the FEC update when i finally got my new passport. I went straight off to the PSB and they didn't care that i had a new passport nor did they care that my RP was in another passport with a different number.
She did tell me to get my FEC done with the new passport number. Off i went. They didn't care much either and told me to come back the following day for my FEC. I did. No problem.
Either i am so charming that unicorns dance when i walk by or once again i depends upon where you are and the mood of the officer at that moment. I'm going with my charm
ironman510:
You must have been in the 10 day time frame. Meaning you got it done before having a new passport over 10 days,or how long did you actually have your new passport before it reached the local police station for temporary registration updates?
iWolf:
You are correct. I went the day after i recieved it but no one cared nor was anything documented which surprised me.
Several years ago I lost my ATM card on a trip and went to the bank to get a new card. For those not in the know, you have to go to the same bank branch to do this. If you opened your account on one side of town and you move to the other side of town, you have to go there, or go through about an hour of paperwork.
Recently I got a new passport since the other expired. At the bank when I turned in my passport, the teller noticed that my passport number was different, and she initially declined my application for the new card, regardless it was obviously me and my ugly picture on it. Stood my ground firmly (because this branch was far away from my house, former neighborhood) and we decided that she will accept the application but I need to get my old passport, which fortunately I still had (it's lost now).
I didn't get hassled like the OP because I had to go to Hong Kong to apply for the new Z visa (oh, the good old days.......). Comically, I was taking a leak on the train from Guangzhou (liked Guangzhou, filthy town, but lots of local color) and I checked my wallet for money and the ATM card dropped straight into the hole of the toilet like a boss. No biggie, but I knew it was going to be a pain in the ass when I came home, and China didn't disappoint.
