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Q: The new wave.

Further to a comment in an answer I made to the inane visa question, has anybody else noticed a distinct change in the makeup of their local expat community?

I'm in Shijiazhuang and it has gone from (a very small group of) the adventurous Yanks, Brits, Canucks, Aussies, Kiwis and hard working Filipinos to a heady and large mix of African and Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi students and Eastern Europeans/Russians/Urkainians doing kindergarten work for next to nothing or 'entertainment'.

 

Are any of you long-timers experiencing the same?

 

To quantify, I've been in and out of the same city for the last ten years.

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Yeah I notice the same.I think that's part of the whole "Non-native work visa crackdown" going on for English teachers. I was in Yiwu a few months ago and could have sworn I was in Pakistan by number of Pakis running around. 

 

Whatever though, its the way of the world I guess. Cant all be blonde hair, blue eyed native English speakers in China for expats.

 

The more colored people running around draws attention away from whitey....which makes my life a lot easier. One thing I learned about Chinese is that they hate colored people way more than crackers. 

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Yeah I notice the same.I think that's part of the whole "Non-native work visa crackdown" going on for English teachers. I was in Yiwu a few months ago and could have sworn I was in Pakistan by number of Pakis running around. 

 

Whatever though, its the way of the world I guess. Cant all be blonde hair, blue eyed native English speakers in China for expats.

 

The more colored people running around draws attention away from whitey....which makes my life a lot easier. One thing I learned about Chinese is that they hate colored people way more than crackers. 

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I have noticed a shift (diversification) but I am in a "university town" area in Shanghai, so I see more foreigners at the grocery store (which has a halal meat section) than other areas.

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I understand China accepting more students, if that's what they're doing. Students bring money and face to the country.

 

But I wonder how they feel about those same students replacing ( illegally)  the probably better qualified and more experienced English teachers who can't be arsed with China's bullshit now.

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Fuck yeah!!!!!!!!!! They're pushing qualified English teachers out of the smaller cities.

 

It's amazing when the visa laws get stricter I see more illegal teachers especially from Eastern Europe and Africa. 

 

My university even has started hiring Eastern Europeans who can't speak a lick of English

mike168229:

I went to put my wee girl in a kindergarten and they actually asked me if I wanted a job. Just out of curiosity I asked if they had any other FTs and what they were offering. They had five others, all from either Serbia, Ukraine or Russia. I spoke to them and their English was passable at best. I also learned that they were working 5 days a week from 0730 to 1730 for between 8-10k RMB. Not a good deal.

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Welcome to the future of ESL in China

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Stiggs:

@ Mike, I wonder what type of visa they are on.

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