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Q: non-native speaker with a degree..

is it possible for a non-native speaker to find any legal teaching job anywhere in China with a degree only ? 

10 years 42 weeks ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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Yes, why not?  

 

Look at the job adverts here, write CV, attach your diploma, and 'email away'. Make sure, you're using capital letters in your CV.

 

Good luck!

Traveler:

"...write a CV..." and no comma needed after the word "sure"

 

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degree only possibly not. you need a tefl/ or other certification

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If you are quite happy to be cheated, scammed, abused and treated with disrespect, there will be no problem. Apart from the fact that you will probably be working illegally, and risking arrest, fine and deportation. Good luck Smile

t91camp:

Technically speaking, aren't these the requirements to be a legal ESL teacher as a foreigner in China?


-Native speaker (or else they might as well be Chinese)

-Bachelor's degree in anything (what a joke)

-2 years post-graduation teaching experience (reasonable)

-TEFL/etc certification (not sure about this one)

-Z visa, FEC (no-brainer)

 

I bet less than a quarter of English teachers in China fit all of those criteria. And yet, yearly deportations are only in the, what, low four digits? Most of them are Asian and African migrants in unskilled jobs, I might add.

 

I'm not trying to encourage legally unqualified teachers to teach, but let's be a bit more realistic here. Most schools will accept anyone with a white face, most schools will not mistreat them for being legally unqualified, and most people do not get deported.

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Traveler:

I don't care what happens to them. It is common sense if you are not a qualified teacher, you are fake teacher.

 

Schools give some leeway to qualified near native speakers, and unqualified native speakers. Being an unqulaified non-native speaker is just asking for trouble.

 

Schools will cheat everybody, to varying degrees, given the opportunity to do so.

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manasyt:

Where do you buy your drugs, Traveler?

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t91camp:

Traveler, I respect your opinion on most things, but in this case you seem a lot like the guy whose girlfriend cheated on him and, as a result, thinks "all women are whores".

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I'm not a native speaker( I'm Russian) working LEGALLY with a residence and work permit. I have MA in teaching English.

Good luck,

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ElenaDob:

Hey, Traveler, why don't you pick on someone your own size? Talking about double standards: when Crimochina makes mistakes, you turn a blind eye on it, when a non-native speaker doesn't leave space before parenthesis, you're thrilled to the core to put him/her down. 

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AnastasiaSher:

It's the language of the Internet. I never check what i write. If you think these mistakes are so serious and can prevent me from teaching English, than you might have some problems. Obviously your aggression has much to do  with your self-confidence. Usually, if people can't find anything well-grounded to humiliate a person, they pick up on something that is not worth being noticed at all.  I'm sure even being a native speaker you haven't got much in your life and now you're just being jealous. I agree with Elena, you are too weak to compete with someone of your own size (if we mean the level of English) 

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Traveler:

Elena and Anastasia: I am really hurt. I was trying to help someone with their English, and you think you are too perfect to be corrected. Elena's English is passable, but Anastasia needs all the help she can get.

 

crimo does his typing that way, because it is his style. e e cummings, one of the most famous English language poets, wrote his poems the same way - no capitals.

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AnastasiaSher:

Traveler, now I see that I've really hurt you. Sorry about that. But again your accusations are not grounded at all. By the way it's a pleasure for me to learn new things. You know nothing is perfect  (sorry If I failed to put a comma in the right place ). 

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TedDBayer:

I hit the caps key but my timing is l aways off, I have to back up and do corrections always. My I usually is i.

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Hi, Traveler, if Hugh or Crimochina corrected my mistakes, I would say thank you. Maybe Anastasia doesn't read between the lines, but I do. You corrected her when she was asking about a job opening, which means you do not consider her qualified if she makes such basic mistakes.   Besides, I still remember your attitude when Jean brought up the issue of non-native speakers teaching English in China.  As for Anastasia, her English is good enough to be on this forum, & you, as a qualified teacher, should encourage everyone who  tries to use English.  Mistakes are inevitable, that's how people learn.

 I do my best to be tolerant & nice to you, but you're just so arrogant & proud.  What are you proud of?  Of the fact that you can speak your own language well?  When someone asks a question concerning non-native speakers, you start giving  out that endless negativity & refusal to see any kind of progress we make even if it's staring you in the  face.  I still have some some dried up respect & tolerance for you, neither of which I bloody get in return.

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AnastasiaSher:

Elena, I'm very surprised to hear that Traveler is a teacher! Are you sure about that? It's a pity that schools in China accept people with the right  passports not even paying attention to their mental condition and personalities.

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What do you want to teach, how to be a non-native speaker? 

ElenaDob:

Don't flatter yourself, dude.

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TedDBayer:

I am a native speaker and I don't teach.

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AnastasiaSher:

Then I don't understand why you take part in this conversation. And what's more why you talk about teaching. It's very strange, I'm sorry.

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TedDBayer:

No you are strange.

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Traveler:

Anastasia. It's not for you to decide who can take part in conversations. Are you the internet police or something, or just have a hate session on native speakers?

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AnastasiaSher:

Traveler, you will never understand what I mean because you pry into every possible conversation. So If you, guys, think that you are proficient enough then I'm just happy for you.

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Traveler:

Anesthesia: You must be trippin'. Every thing you post here is for public comment, so how on earth could any one be prying? If you want to have little girl secret conversations, use email.

 

Or do you just want to be the internet police?

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Never mind :)

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http://anesl.com/schools/index.asp

Try looking for a job here. Public schools are less picky about your nationality.

 

There are some parts of China where you'll definitely need a TEFL/TESOL certificate. I'm sure this is the case for Guangdong. Look elsewhere.

 

Generally, employers would care more about your hair color than about your qualifications. 

Edit: I'm not affiliated with the website.

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Private message me. I know some schools that will accept non native teachers with good salaries, and housing/visa provided.

MUHAMMADIRSHAD:

hello dear friend.i m  a non native speaker and my fluent in english.also i have a TEFL certificate here n china.i need ur help n finding a teaching job, that suits me.i have masters degree n human resource management as well as bachelors in education and also have 2 years of teaching experience in my home country

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Yes I know it's possible because i've seen that so many times since I've been here. There was a guy from Nigeria, Peru, Russia, Phillipines. You name it and they've been doing it so why not you? (Drunk!

Traveler:

One guy came from all those countries?

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ElenaDob:

Traveler, you're incorrigible.

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Traveler:

Elena: Are you the new internet police? Try to stay on topic. You sound very racist towards native speakers.

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There are cookies, bookies and too many rookies for me to sit here trying to be a hooky! Looky Looky don't call me a wooky. Touchy Touchy Feely Feely Spicy Spicy Nicey Nicey & that's what the doctor Ordered!!

 
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If you're interested I can give you the name of the company that will surely provide you with the job and qualified service. They've been good to me despite the fact that I'm not a native speaker. That's why I'm still keeping positive about China and its prejudices about foreigners.

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