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Q: OK, Hardest Rocker ......
of all time ? Vote and say why. My list is out of numerical order because I'm just throwing out candidates. I’ll show my vote soon.
Neil Young
Bob Dylan
Led Zeppelin
Tom Petty
Mick Jagger
ZZ Todp
Elvis
Fleetwood Mac
Eagles
Allman Brothers
John Lennon
Freddie Mercury
Elton John
David Bowie
addendum:
Hendrix
Santana
Lennon
The Doors
Guns ‘n Roses
Nirvana
Pink Floyd
Diver, do you mean just music wise, or being a hard core sex drugs and rock n roll party animal?
Stiggs:
Because I'd like to throw Axl Rose in the there regardless of how you define hardest rocker.
diverdude1:
yeah, guess it does need a little defining,,,, hmmm, let me think,,, what I meant was very abstract as one can tell. I know I don’t mean music ability,,, more like a Whole Ball of Wax thing,,, what Rock n’ Roll mthrfkr had the Inimitable Style, the certain Something that separated him from the rest, a Stage Presence, an OffStage Presence, a One of a Kind that moved us Emotionaly with his music and Just had that certain undefinable characteristic that separated him from the rest of the mere mortals?
diverdude1:
@Stiggs,,,, I’ve been watching the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert the last few nights... Axl blew the crowd away! I’d kill for a tenth of that guy’s energy ! He’s a true Rocker, I totally agree. He’s so cool in that concert,, the one for AIDS awareness,,, if you have never seen it,,, I sure advise u do.
Stiggs:
Ah, well in that case,personally I'd still go with Axl but that's just cos I was hard into Guns N Roses as a teenager.
But if it's someone who changed history and influenced humanity I'd say it really has to one of the old school guys.
Bowie, Dylan, Hendrix, Black Sabbath, the Rolling Stones, ACDC and the guys on your list would all be contenders.
Or, the Beatles. They shook the world.
seansarto:
Yeah I was wondering what you meant by "Hard Rocker" also...If you want debauchery outta control check GG Alin.
Do you think Tom Petty will go to Hell for being in that Kevin Costna movie "The Postman "?
diverdude1:
Never seen the flick...
yep,,, Mick is one Hard Rockin’ dude! Seen the Stones back in the 80’s,,,, but secretly not top of my list,,, even though I kinda think there is no ‘best and less’ with these kinda guys....
philbravery:
Don't bother seeing it...you will never get that time back
Wow. What a horrible list. Where's Kurt Cobain? The STP guy whose name I can't recall. Not to mention the real competition between Keith Moon and John Bonham. I vote Moon. He out partied and out drummed the field.
diverdude1:
haha,,, I’m stuck in the 70’s,,, who’s Kurt Cobain? not being a wiseass,, seriously,,, who is he.? The Nirvana guy? He friggin’ rocked!
Hard to leave Springsteen off the list...but somehow you did
diverdude1:
easy for me,,, Springsteen is good,, but not in the Pantheon. imo
LastTargarean:
What exactly is the Gen X/New England obsession with Springsteen? The guy had like 3 hit songs. Mr. Mediocre.
seansarto:
Typical haughty-minded to exclude the guy who builds the Pantheon...Springsteen...from being welcomed in it...Basicslly, theftick and roll museum was built around Bruce Springsteen...you might want to include the golden years of Hollywood ...everything from the shark in Jaws to Pacino and Deniro fed The Springsteen myth..his work ethic and integrity ( wasn’t a junky or abuser of women) defined American spirit in the 70’s...80’s and 90’s...”Born to Run” is basically the apex of American rock and the first authentic American opera...that being said: Idont care for what he has become on this century...seemingly grasping for relevance in every effort
Shining_brow:
I'd leave Springsteen off the list..
He may have been very influential to American culture... but not so much internationally (not talking about music, but culture).
The others we're talking about were much more wide-spread in their influence in that respect.
seansarto:
Uhh...I'm not sure what you mean "outside America" since Springsteen played a huge part in the Human Rights campaign with Amnesty International (Yes this irks the Chinese..I've noticed you've left most of the artists besides Dylan off the list..U2, The Police, Springsteen...though Led Zepplin supports Amnesty)....That kind of helped Nelson Mandela get out of jail...Also obvious as hell the guy has a massive European following...Icing on the cake would be the guy works for SONY...Japanese....and his 9 digit royalties is something they aren't really willing to let go of..(See the circumstances where they replaced their CEO with an American just to renegotiate Springsteen's contracts)..Hate to say it the guy has plenty of sway outside America
Diver, do you mean just music wise, or being a hard core sex drugs and rock n roll party animal?
Stiggs:
Because I'd like to throw Axl Rose in the there regardless of how you define hardest rocker.
diverdude1:
yeah, guess it does need a little defining,,,, hmmm, let me think,,, what I meant was very abstract as one can tell. I know I don’t mean music ability,,, more like a Whole Ball of Wax thing,,, what Rock n’ Roll mthrfkr had the Inimitable Style, the certain Something that separated him from the rest, a Stage Presence, an OffStage Presence, a One of a Kind that moved us Emotionaly with his music and Just had that certain undefinable characteristic that separated him from the rest of the mere mortals?
diverdude1:
@Stiggs,,,, I’ve been watching the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert the last few nights... Axl blew the crowd away! I’d kill for a tenth of that guy’s energy ! He’s a true Rocker, I totally agree. He’s so cool in that concert,, the one for AIDS awareness,,, if you have never seen it,,, I sure advise u do.
Stiggs:
Ah, well in that case,personally I'd still go with Axl but that's just cos I was hard into Guns N Roses as a teenager.
But if it's someone who changed history and influenced humanity I'd say it really has to one of the old school guys.
Bowie, Dylan, Hendrix, Black Sabbath, the Rolling Stones, ACDC and the guys on your list would all be contenders.
Or, the Beatles. They shook the world.
seansarto:
Yeah I was wondering what you meant by "Hard Rocker" also...If you want debauchery outta control check GG Alin.
No one has rocked as long or as hard as Iggy Pop. He had a few excellent songs, great albums and co-wrote a few classics amongst a lot of noise. And he's still going hard.
For my money, Neil Young really rocked it and still does. A lot of the so-called legends, were basically soft cocks with a publicity machine and paparazzi on speed dial.
Hell, what about Bez from the Happy Mondays? He's gotta be up there....never sang a note, never played a chord, couldn't dance for fuck but was a superstar (albeit short lived and burnt out badly).
Yep, my vote is for Bez。
diverdude1:
Neil Young.
for me he is the guy who maybe bumps my #1,,, but not quite... but he does,, in his own way,,, nobody like Mr Young,,, unique. A definite rock n roll futhermucker!
cant decide if best is Heart of Gold, Harvest Moon, or Cortez, Cortez....
what’s your favorite?
"Harvest Moon" Lyrics
hear what I have to say
Just like children sleepin,
we could dream this night away
But, there's a full moon rising
Let's go dancing in the light
We know where the music's playing
let's go out and feel the night
-chorus-
Because I'm still in love with you;
I want to see you dance again
Because I'm still in love with you,
on this Harvest Moon
When we were stangers,
I watched you from afar
When we were lovers,
I loved you with all my heart
But, now it's getting late
and the moon is climbing high
I want to celebrate,
see it shining in your eyes
-chorus-
Because I'm still in love with you;
I want to see you dance again
Because I'm still in love with you,
on this Harvest Moon
(harmonica solo)
-chorus-
Because I'm still in love with you;
I want to see you dance again
Because I'm still in love with you,
on this Harvest Moon
BHGAL:
love Neil Young and so does my son MAGGIE MAY, is big with me.... the whole damned album is great
iWolf:
I'm a big fan of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere album. Cowgirl in the Sand is a standout. Back in the day i had over a dozen of his Lps. But Cinnamon Girl may be his most rockong song. And the single note guitar solo in it still rates as one of the best solos ever.
Aerosmith and how the fuck can you omit Queen?
diverdude1:
haha, Freddie’s my #2 ,,,,,,, coolest dude ever except #1,,, but sure gave #1 a run for his money,,, and gosh,,, if I were gonna be homosexual, Freddie be the guy to convince me. Seriously though,,,, Freddie had that Magic,, what a Powerful, Unique, Beautiful representation of the Best of Humanity.
‘’’ just find me somebody tooooooooooooo Love!!!’
Power defined.
philbravery:
As far as cool goes you would have to put Chris Isaac up near the top
Ummm. Pete Townsend? (if you're racking your brains - The Who). And of course, Roger Daltrey. Robert Plant
Morrissey (not one of my types, but certainly will be to many)
David Lee Roth (when he was good)
diverdude1:
Daltry had (has?) the coolness.
Townsend,,, badass musician,, but odd stage presence.
I seen Roth in the 80’s ,,, hard fkn Rocker,,, but a long way from the Pantheon.
I’d like to hear from spider,,, he’s a good guy,, been here a long time,,, he knows we decided we could talk about non Chinese stuff,,, anyway,,, I’d like him back in the convo.
for me, music is about MOODS..... I like it all and I am pretty danged MOODY.
Pete Towshend comes to mind. as a top of the line Rocker.
but then I have times when I listen to John Denver or Anne Murray..
BEATLES, together are the best band.
diverdude1:
Way back when, my older sister was one of those girls In Love with Rob Stewart. :)
I’m a bit younger than the Beatles, and must admit I never listened to them,,,, but I kinda thought that they were more of a Pop Music group,,, but I may be wrong, maybe they did RnR?
i think u expressed it well with the Moods thing, that’s the missing point,,, how we cannot rate the guys on a Best/Less scale,,, more of a horizontal thing... sometimes there’s nobody like Waylon Jennings, then other times I wanna see Bowie...
Mick Jagger
The Stones are on Tour right now Mick is 74 years old and runs and dances and sings like someone half his age.
diverdude1:
Wow,,, 74! Impressive.
me and my friends seen the Stones in Houston when I was still a kid. Amazing the guy is still Rocking out!
opening act: ZZ Top 
Englteachted:
And Pink Floyd the, Elton and Billy Joel the same summer
Ok,, wonderful choices all, I’ll now reveal my choice,,,,, (drumroll in background)......
Elvis Aaron Presley
The King
Presley is one of the most celebrated and influential musicians of the 20th century. Commercially successful in many genres, including pop, blues and gospel, he is one of the best-selling artists in the history of recorded music, with estimated record sales of around 600 million units worldwide.[5] He won three Grammys,[6] also receiving the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award at age 36, and has been inducted into multiple music halls of fame.
http://v.youku.com/pad_show/id_XMjk5ODM4MzY4MA==.html?spm=a2h0k.8191407....
“I am not the King. Jesus Christ is the King. I’m just an entertainer.”
elvis
you forgot the one and only Mr Chuck Berry if it wasnt for Chuck no Beatles no Stones
I think Chuck Berry should take the number one spot he is RocknRoll
iWolf:
You've got that wr9ng mate. No Marty McFly.......no Chuck Berry. I saw a documentary about it called Back to the Future.
Hard to pick just one...
So many greats... I would say Robert Plant, Mick Jagger, Elvis Presley, Fleetwood Mac, Johnny Cash (nobody mentioned him?), Bob Dylan, and Jim Morrison.
diverdude1:
I was bored one afternoon in Paris and I was staying out there away from tourist area to save money and I was next to that cemetery, Pere Lachaise, so I wandered around in there for awhile and found Jim Morrison’s grave. I’m not really sure why I did that, barely knew who he was,,, but those old cemeteries have a weird/cool vibe about them... especially French,, it’s like an ethereal outdoor art museum....
