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Q: Opening a school to freelance legally?

So here is my question.I don't really want to work for any school and I dont want to work illegally. So my idea is why not just get the business license for a school and rent a small shop.(i've seen these for less than 1000 RMB a month) And basically use that as a front and just teach freelance where you want. i.e apartment,cafe, bar ect. And just use the shop as an office or clubhouse or something. And I'll be the only worker so I should be able to do my own visa and other legal things easier.

 

So I would have the license and the shop, So the teaching I do should be legal correct? I dont plan on growing and hiring teachers or anything.ill be the only worker.  I have the resource and guanxi to get the license quite easily. I'm just curious if anyone has done this?

 

The reason for me doing this is because I don't like dealing with schools and visas. I'd rather do it myself and I have enough students to keep me busy. 

 

1 more question,  Would it be better to register as a training center or label the company as something else like "Language consultant professional" or something like that?

 

 

14 weeks 1 day ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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Before anybody else get all coats, I'll go with Yahoo-gle:

 

  1. How To Dodge The Bullets Of Opening A School In China | China ...www.chinalawblog.com/2008/09/opening_a_school_in_china_can.html

    Sep 7, 2008 ... ... wife, owns and manages a very successful private English language school. ... Many people, Chinese and foreign alike, look at owning an English training ... Starting a foreign language school is the new Mexican joint venture. ... My observation is that if you start as a shoestring school, you'll end up ...

  2. I am in the process of opening a private English school in China...www.quora.com/I-am-in-the-process-of-opening-a-private-English-school-in-China-to-teach-3-to-7-year-olds-Does-anyone-have-any-advice

    Hello Wayne, I am also in Zhejiang province and have opened a private English Training ... Don't say "your kid will be speaking fluent English in one to two years! ... What do I need to start a training school for teaching kids English in China?

  3. What do I need to start a training school for teaching kids ...www.quora.com/What-do-I-need-to-start-a-training-school-for-teaching-kids-English-in-China

    Some good answers so far. I would add a couple of points however. Nobody seems to have ... Opening a school in China (or anywhere for that matter) is a huge undertaking. There are ... I am in the process of opening a private English school in China to teach 3 to 7 year olds. ... Hire all native English-speaking teachers. 5.

  4. China : How to start a language school in Chinawww.chinaorbit.com/china-economy/how-to-in-china/start-a-language-school.html

    Why did you decide to start a language school for foreign students in China? ... some Chinese before or are at an advance level, we organize private classes, ...

  5. Starting an English School in China - Teaching English in China ...www.chinese-forums.com/forums/topic/21841-starting-an-english-school-in-china/

    Jul 17, 2009 ... I grew up speaking Mandarin chinese and considered myself very fluent in ... and get a few foreigner(possibly even as business partners) start from there. .... To open an English school that employers foreigners in China you need to .... English in a school, then started to get private students on the side, ...

  6. Start-Up Costs and Procedures For English Teaching School? -...www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum/start-up-costs-and-procedures-for-english-teaching-school-t122053.html

    Mar 10, 2017 ... To start a legitimate business teaching English, are the legalities the same as for any other ... There maybe thousands of english schools in China. ... I'm also interested in setting up a language school for other language.

  7. So You Want to Open a Language School? by David Will « IH Journalihjournal.com/so-you-want-to-open-a-language-school-by-david-will

    Let's grasp the nettle at the start and sort out finance, for without a proper ... territory (teaching English in Vancouver, or Mandarin in China) then your markets are ...

  8. Your Own School - Genki Englishgenkienglish.net/teaching/tips-for-starting-your-own-school/

    As a great Genki English teacher you certainly deserve the freedom to teach ... Start your own School Tip 7: How to get more students then you'll ever need ...

  9. How the ESL Industry in China is Changing | Go Overseaswww.gooverseas.com/blog/how-the-esl-industry-in-china-is-changing

    Feb 1, 2016 ... In this case, it's a native-speaking English teacher starting in ... that in 2005 Chinaalready contained 50,000 private language schools, ... nine, and some schools in China's larger cities start teaching English as young as six.

  10. Charter Operator BASIS Opening Private School in China - Market...marketbrief.edweek.org/marketplace-k-12/charter_operator_basis_opening_private_school_in_china/

    Aug 7, 2015 ... Charter Operator BASIS Opening Private School in China ... e-mail, said BASIS will comply with Chinese government regulations, meaning it ... international schools in China, meaning schools where English is the language ...

  

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Another reason why this would be way easier is because I stay in china 1 or 2 years and stay in my country for 1 or 2 years at a time and back and forth. So to legally work every time I go back I have to find this school online and Skype interview, sending documents and all this shit without even seeing the school.  Its always a gamble. If I had my own business in china I could get myself a visa when I come back to china and could possibly still work legally. 

 

This maybe not work but its cool to brainstorm ideas.

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Before anybody else get all coats, I'll go with Yahoo-gle:

 

  1. How To Dodge The Bullets Of Opening A School In China | China ...www.chinalawblog.com/2008/09/opening_a_school_in_china_can.html

    Sep 7, 2008 ... ... wife, owns and manages a very successful private English language school. ... Many people, Chinese and foreign alike, look at owning an English training ... Starting a foreign language school is the new Mexican joint venture. ... My observation is that if you start as a shoestring school, you'll end up ...

  2. I am in the process of opening a private English school in China...www.quora.com/I-am-in-the-process-of-opening-a-private-English-school-in-China-to-teach-3-to-7-year-olds-Does-anyone-have-any-advice

    Hello Wayne, I am also in Zhejiang province and have opened a private English Training ... Don't say "your kid will be speaking fluent English in one to two years! ... What do I need to start a training school for teaching kids English in China?

  3. What do I need to start a training school for teaching kids ...www.quora.com/What-do-I-need-to-start-a-training-school-for-teaching-kids-English-in-China

    Some good answers so far. I would add a couple of points however. Nobody seems to have ... Opening a school in China (or anywhere for that matter) is a huge undertaking. There are ... I am in the process of opening a private English school in China to teach 3 to 7 year olds. ... Hire all native English-speaking teachers. 5.

  4. China : How to start a language school in Chinawww.chinaorbit.com/china-economy/how-to-in-china/start-a-language-school.html

    Why did you decide to start a language school for foreign students in China? ... some Chinese before or are at an advance level, we organize private classes, ...

  5. Starting an English School in China - Teaching English in China ...www.chinese-forums.com/forums/topic/21841-starting-an-english-school-in-china/

    Jul 17, 2009 ... I grew up speaking Mandarin chinese and considered myself very fluent in ... and get a few foreigner(possibly even as business partners) start from there. .... To open an English school that employers foreigners in China you need to .... English in a school, then started to get private students on the side, ...

  6. Start-Up Costs and Procedures For English Teaching School? -...www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum/start-up-costs-and-procedures-for-english-teaching-school-t122053.html

    Mar 10, 2017 ... To start a legitimate business teaching English, are the legalities the same as for any other ... There maybe thousands of english schools in China. ... I'm also interested in setting up a language school for other language.

  7. So You Want to Open a Language School? by David Will « IH Journalihjournal.com/so-you-want-to-open-a-language-school-by-david-will

    Let's grasp the nettle at the start and sort out finance, for without a proper ... territory (teaching English in Vancouver, or Mandarin in China) then your markets are ...

  8. Your Own School - Genki Englishgenkienglish.net/teaching/tips-for-starting-your-own-school/

    As a great Genki English teacher you certainly deserve the freedom to teach ... Start your own School Tip 7: How to get more students then you'll ever need ...

  9. How the ESL Industry in China is Changing | Go Overseaswww.gooverseas.com/blog/how-the-esl-industry-in-china-is-changing

    Feb 1, 2016 ... In this case, it's a native-speaking English teacher starting in ... that in 2005 Chinaalready contained 50,000 private language schools, ... nine, and some schools in China's larger cities start teaching English as young as six.

  10. Charter Operator BASIS Opening Private School in China - Market...marketbrief.edweek.org/marketplace-k-12/charter_operator_basis_opening_private_school_in_china/

    Aug 7, 2015 ... Charter Operator BASIS Opening Private School in China ... e-mail, said BASIS will comply with Chinese government regulations, meaning it ... international schools in China, meaning schools where English is the language ...

  

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Are you sure you have the resources and guanxi to get a school licence?

 

It's not an easy thing to do, lots of red tape and obstacles and knowing China it's probably different everywhere you go but I suppose if you knew the right people it might make things easier. It would still be a nightmare though.

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If you provide services based and invoiced in China you need the proper Z Visa. Check  http://www.chinalawblog.com/?s=Opening+a+business for some alternatives. By owning a business you can get a Z Visa and potentially a Residence permit.

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Just to give you an idea:

As you want to start the business by yourself (only yourself) we are speaking of a wfoe.

To open up a wfoe in the education industry requires 1 million RMB cash deposit in a bank account. The process takes up to 6 month or even longer.

If you are the legal rep. of the company, you can supply yourself with a visa.

 

Of course you can teach then under your own school, but at the same time it also means you have to deal with tax, tax audits, account bookings etc. (I doubt you can handle it without help)

 

I guess if it would be easy, most people would have done it already. Cover it up as consultant or whatever, you didn't exactly cover your ass and are technically still illegal

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When you start doing your applications, you have to include a detailed 'business scope'. If you're going to be a consulting company, then that must be what the scope is all about. For consulting, it specifically is not teaching!

 

So, if you then go teaching, you'd still be operating illegally...

 

As Dom said above, you need a minimum of capital (how much may vary - but it isn't going to be cheap!) This, really, is the biggest drawback of your idea!

 

If you're going to open as a training centre, then it gets sticky... the government isn't too fond of foreigners having control of education here...

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Foreigners are simply not allowed to operate educational companies so start a consulting WFOE, no need to partner with a Chinese, rent a commercial office, register your business scope as something relatively wide and vague "offering global consulting to Chinese people", pray that no one decides to investigate your business in details. There are 3 types of WFOE, consulting, trading and manufacturing. Unlike what was said in this thread, there is no minimum liable capital required for a consulting WFOE, the only type of WFOE that requires RMB 1 million investment is manufacturing.

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Ultimately a waste of your time.
It is far less profitable and far more stressful to be dealing with the locals face to face every day and teaching their children.
There are other avenues of income for you to take, I advise you research them instead.

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Why wouldn't OP just work at a university for 10 hours a week to secure a visa lmao

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