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Q: Permanent Residence Permit

There is a 'Thats Mag' article on Facebook that reports that Caixin says expats who reside in China, but don't work here (I assume that means you must be self-employed like me) but still have a certain income (so self-employed) and are within a certain income tax threshold will be able to apply for permanent residence permit, but does anyone have anymore info on this?

14 weeks 4 days ago in  Visa & Legalities - China

 
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I know how you feel when you see the term "permanent resident", it makes you feel and say to yourself: Wow, hey there is away to stay here forever and enjoy the endless supply of jobs here.

 

Then I can get it too, NOT!

 

Sorry to tell you man that getting this visa is nearly impossible still. I've only seen pictures of people with grey hair get this visa, in my 9 years here I still haven't met anyone who has it, nor has anyone online popped up and said: "Hey I got it, this how I got it."

 

So if this what you want, than find a wife or husband in Japan, Taiwan or Korea. These places will allow you to stay forever if your married have stayed for up to 5 years.

 

 

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14 weeks 3 days ago
 
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Heres some info on who cn apply fr Chinese Green Card:
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/koLLSvl5EYuNT3iV6SHGOw

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I know how you feel when you see the term "permanent resident", it makes you feel and say to yourself: Wow, hey there is away to stay here forever and enjoy the endless supply of jobs here.

 

Then I can get it too, NOT!

 

Sorry to tell you man that getting this visa is nearly impossible still. I've only seen pictures of people with grey hair get this visa, in my 9 years here I still haven't met anyone who has it, nor has anyone online popped up and said: "Hey I got it, this how I got it."

 

So if this what you want, than find a wife or husband in Japan, Taiwan or Korea. These places will allow you to stay forever if your married have stayed for up to 5 years.

 

 

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it's impossible, i have to put up 200k for processing, refundable, 6 months to process, tax returns for 3 years when I am not allowed to work, not sure what good tax returns will do for the cause, and then the kick in the ass in fine print at the bottom.

 

you must reside in the country 270 days of every year to maintain the visa, so sending and living with kids abroad and visiting grandma for the summer is a no,no.

 

if anything happens on the political stage to cause you to leave, you may not get back in in time to keep the 270 day rule.

 

to many what if's, and if your spouse divorces you or dies, your permanent visa is no longer valid.

 

So all you foreigners come on in, we love your money, just leave quickly after we take it all, for all deadbeat lazy unproductive foreigners we have the exit signs marked in 100 languages and dont forget to pay an exit fee before the door hits you in the ass.

 

 

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14 weeks 2 days ago
 
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Haha no way. They track your tax revenues way more closely if you have one of these, which makes it impossible to dodge and means you must be a perfect law abiding guest in a country where everyone (and I mean EVERYONE!) Is cheating the tax office on a normal basis.

"Foreigners, respect our laws! Chinese, business as usual."

Well no thanks, I will continue maximizing profits and using accounting tricks to get me extras, it's not like I intend to stay here forever anyway, I will be out as soon as I have a kid.

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Ditto.

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Permanent residence here is a minor convenience (ok, to someone like me who doesn't have kids to a Chinese partner, and wants to stay here longer term...).

 

And, even then, if you're experienced or qualified enough, it's still only a minor convenience. Any longer-duration  work permit is fine. If you're on a spousal, then you just be careful when taking side jobs (especially private tutoring for English - which pays ok).

 

For those who ARE thinking of staying long-term (cos of kids), you may be changing your mind about that in a year or 3... things are getting worse for us (and locals), not better... look at all the media crackdowns that have been implemented recently!

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I guess you're referring to this recent article (which is almost a copy and paste from others I've read)

 

http://www.thatsmags.com/guangzhou/post/18120/china-launching-a-5-year-w...

 

You're possibly referring to this paragraph "Residence permit rules are also being eased. Caixin reports that expats who reside in the country "for more than four consecutive years while residing in the country for at least six months out of each year, and who meet a certain salary and income tax threshold" will be able to apply for a permanent residence permit. No details about those thresholds are available yet."

 

To meet the "certain salary and income tax requirements" you need to be legally working in China!

 

As I said earlier, I'd read the requirements in Guangzhou was an annual salary >600,000 RMB! In other articles I'd read >420,000 RMB. 

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