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Q: Social problems? Do these girls deserve pity?

 

 

 

Local article.   http://www.sohu.com/a/208201802_469989  Earlier the meat market  of prc was hot with the selling of 10G data of nude: photos from girls posing nude for loans. Most of them aren't using the loan for food and shelter but cosmetics, handbags, cosmetic surgery....etc. Quite a few are uni students.

 

The interest takes this form, for a rmb 8000 loan the daily repayment is rmb 330, to be all repaid within 30 days. And you only get rmb 6400 when they hand you the cash (ie 80%).

 

:-[I calculated the interest to be rmb 3500, ie a whooping  54.7% monthly rate, or 656% per annum!]

 

This loan model has mutated. For those who couldn't repay the loan sharks' in time, they would arrange work for them. KTVs......we all know what girls do there. 

 

Do these girls deserve sympathy?

 

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FOr wanting the loan in the first place? No, absolutely not. For being pushed into the sex industry, yes.

earthizen:

Thks and I agree.  Always a clear thinker!

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Pushed? Women can't make choices the same as men? I've been in serious debt twice before I finally took charge and learned from my mistakes. Getting into debt was a choice 

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@Engles... "pushed".... 

 

Or, to put it another way, threatened that if they don't they may lose the use of their legs. (and, occasionally, I'm sure some resist, and so are used as an example).

 

Do you disagree?

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Actually most of those girls know that would happen before they ask for the loans. They simply don't consider trading their body for sex an issue. Who in prc doesn't know about mistresses, xiao sans, xiao si, xiao nth?

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Possibly, but not for the reasons they'd be expecting.

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ahhhhh

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FOr wanting the loan in the first place? No, absolutely not. For being pushed into the sex industry, yes.

earthizen:

Thks and I agree.  Always a clear thinker!

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Pushed? Women can't make choices the same as men? I've been in serious debt twice before I finally took charge and learned from my mistakes. Getting into debt was a choice 

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Shining_brow:

@Engles... "pushed".... 

 

Or, to put it another way, threatened that if they don't they may lose the use of their legs. (and, occasionally, I'm sure some resist, and so are used as an example).

 

Do you disagree?

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Actually most of those girls know that would happen before they ask for the loans. They simply don't consider trading their body for sex an issue. Who in prc doesn't know about mistresses, xiao sans, xiao si, xiao nth?

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Meanwhile, in Hollywood, Harvey Weinstein continues to be all the rage....

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 No wonder Sex, Lies and Videotape is so successful! I heard he is going to produce Project Runway's sequel,  Project Runaway.   A liberal humanitarian too when it comes to sex apparently.  I wonder if Hillary Clinton is giving her sponsor a hand.  What are you thinking? I don't mean massage!  lol

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They do not, but China is a cruel place where materialism and superficiality are kings, unrestrained by any set of morals that may exist in other countries.

 

These girls are victims of society, they need the latest bag because their friends have it, they need cosmetics because unrealistic standards of beauty mean that they will be called ugly every 10 seconds by every strangers they come across if they do not wear a heavy layer of makeup, and it's the same thing with surgery.

 

However, it would only take some personality and strength of will to live just fine by not following society's expectations, to stand for themselves and refuse to be products of the mentally diseased society that is modern China.

 

It doesn't take much for a Chinese woman to become independent, to give a big middle finger to society's norms and expectations. My wife is stronger than I in that regard, when some retard does something stupid or tries to shame any of us into what is considered to be 'the norm' (i.e. haha you don't have the latest LV bag!) and while I am very apathetic, she doesn't hesitate to shame people, insult them in public and tell them to f-off. That's my girl.

earthizen:

This has to be a result of communism's souless materialism (*philosophy) core education, as Russia also has this social issue, hookers.  

 

One has to be born very strong, spiritually, to resist environmental brainwashing like that.  Those girls know that would happen if they don't pay up. They don't mind. This is the worse part, worse than their vanity. Your wife is a rare exception. Obviously not a random pick by you! lol

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_materialism   

 

Historical materialism springs from a fundamental underlying reality of human existence: that in order for human beings to survive and continue existence from generation to generation, it is necessary for them to produce and reproduce the material requirements of life.[7] Marx then extended this premise by asserting the importance of the fact that, in order to carry out production and exchange, people have to enter into very definite social relations, most fundamentally "production relations".

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Did they have options, yes they did. Work part time or develop skills, no they chose not to. Where they cheated, no they were fully aware of the consequences.

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Even though this mess that these girls are in is a direct results of conscious decisions, Yes they deserve pity.  

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Where is self responsibility, though?  

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Even though this mess that these girls are in is a direct results of conscious decisions, Yes they deserve pity.  

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Kind Sir, I do not know.

earthizen:

They are learning their lessons in self-control, vanity (face, in local prc language), greed, patience which studying requires.

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