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Q: They are so young; they deserve the death penalty. Change the law?

Local article. http://m.sp.uczzd.cn/webview/news?app=uc-iflow&aid=5676352550991158383&c...

 

 

Location---Hunan, Changsa, a vocational institute.  Story: Dec 6, 2017, 0:15 a student kicked a dorm room (usually multiple students in dalu dorm) door open as he visited someone. One student got into dispute with the door kicker. The kicker went back to his room and said he was beaten up, came back with six other students. 

 

The victim, another guy in the room (not the first guy), said, 'quiet'.  Five of those seven beat him up until his death. Hospital report -- right ear full of blood, neck covered with bruises, skull sustain serious injury.

 

They aimed for the head as usual. Remember the dalu student in UK Imperial College? Under dalu legal system the sentence is only a few years due to age protection.  (under 15)

 

One comment is insightful.  'They are so young, all of them deserve the death penalty'.  (ie these low lives would be released in a couple of years and  of all likelihood remain the same, if not worse after learning new tricks from other convicts).  Many others said, 'only those who flunk at school low lives are sent to technical schools. Waste them'.

 

Would changing the law by reducing the age solve the problem?  (That is what some local netizens recommend).

 

 

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Hang 'em high.

 

That letting people off because of age seems so odd.  Fk 'em.  The world is not going to end because there are a few less rats inhabiting it.  Quick lesson from good ol' Mother Nature, if/when a wild animal births a handicapped it kills it.  Sorry, natural selection is not all 'touchy feely'.  Those kids knew what they were doing. Letting them off would be a mistake.

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Yup, they are old enough to know what killing is and be held responsible.

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Hang 'em high.

 

That letting people off because of age seems so odd.  Fk 'em.  The world is not going to end because there are a few less rats inhabiting it.  Quick lesson from good ol' Mother Nature, if/when a wild animal births a handicapped it kills it.  Sorry, natural selection is not all 'touchy feely'.  Those kids knew what they were doing. Letting them off would be a mistake.

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Yup, they are old enough to know what killing is and be held responsible.

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Slightly confused... if they were under 15 years old, then why is there a photo of a vocational college (where students should be at least 17 years old)??

 

So - what would happen in our countries?

 

Well, firstly, they probably wouldn't be done with straight out 1st degree murder... premeditation with the desire to actually kill is important! So, at best, 2nd degree murder. More likely GBH causing death, or manslaughter. Which carry lengthy(ish) prison terms.

 

The BS about "Many others said, 'only those who flunk at school low lives are sent to technical schools. Waste them'."  WTF sort of attitude is that??? The number who flunk at school is huge (if, by 'flunk', we mean not a god enough score to get into a university... which seems to be the intent, given the mention of 'technical school'). Which is saying... all you mechanics, plumbers, electricians, chefs, and other trades - you are all scum who deserve to die! Now, THAT says a lot to me!!!

 

 

And, lastly - underage. Well, in most countries, if you're below the legal age of maturity (which varies), it is presumed that a lighter sentence is appropriate so that you can learn the error of your ways and rehabilitate quicker. I imagine that at least a couple of those kids had shit in their pants when they found out the other guy was killed (which was possibly an 'accident' - as in, they expected to rough him up a bit... not do permanent damage... priors, anyone??) For me, in this case, I might be inclined to be a bit more lenient (and not have them executed!) There are, however, many other crimes that 'underage' kids commit that would be deserving of harsher punishments (including, perhaps, execution). Rape, torture, child abuse come to mind.

 

 

Hotwater:

Agree with most of that unfortunately our resident China hater who posted this won’t. 

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earthizen:

Now you see why I use technical school later on in the article. The official name of the school (see photo) is vocational college.  Face.  Age 15 is the age for entering this kind of school in prc.  As for the flunk out entering technical school, all this time in prc you still don't know how dalurens define success?  Money!  The occupation you mentioned are lower in pay relative to other occupations such as international trade, banking, tourism....etc. 

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earthizen:

@hotwater   Framing me evidenced how low you are when I post articles on social issues in china, many of which are also reported internationally by global media sources. If your accusation is true then china itself is filled to the brim with china haters, idiot.

 

There are a few laowai china asskissers hanging around china, this we all know. They kiss dalurens' asses for money or are fanatical laowai communists who are not welcomed in their own country.  They have no place to run and even mainlanders know that, thus mock and despise them. These foreign rats make a bad name for other expats who are not like that.  Keep kissing mainlanders' ass and being looked down upon by even the lowest among them, for the right reasons. You deserve it.  LoL

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Englteachted:

You don't know China very well.

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Curiousdude:

so says the 'know-all' delutionl jerk earthizen who's 24/7 obsession is postin' worthless junk on board. Lol.

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earthizen:

Curious bamboo freak, you are also mocked and looked down by even the lowest among dalurens too, especially your kind. Learn how to write English. LoL

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ScotsAlan:

Earth. Your comment towards curious are typical of the far right. I hate the term far right. I hate the term alt right... I use the word Nazi. Earth, rather than argue the point with people who disagree with you, who speak the same language as you, who maybe share the same culture as you... you decide not to debate but to hate. Fill your boots. Enjoy your self defined superirority. Keep your ignorance as a defense. Meanwhile... Next weekend... me and the family are off to meet up with Curious. It will be a weekend of fun, respect, beer, fun and food. Stick your downvotes up your arse.

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@scotsalan  I clearly told you I was not interested in politics so your framing me with political terms made no sense as far as I was concerned. Your lack of reasoning evidenced your fanatism though. What was there to debate when the bamboo freak said nothing intelligent? Your ignorance about china didn't justify your assumption about 'my culture' as plenty of foreigners had far deeper understanding of prc mainlanders than you.   

 

What you planned to do with your life was not my concern as you were not my friend and I have no interest in making friends with people like you.

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Curiousdude:

delutionl jerk earthizen has taken up comedy n the musketeer is suited for tht only.

a quick glance at his threads shows his 'non interest' in politics, chickenin' out wth diversionary talks n one dimentionl blabberin'. idiot! Lol.

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earthizen:

 Bamboo freak, you don't even know what reasoning is let alone politics. Besides bamboo freak dalurens have a fruit based name for garbages like you. They do get that right. LoL

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Curiousdude:

musketeer, do yr 'elite' friends call u to their toilet fr meetings or visit the gutter where u stay ? just curious whch is right. Lol

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earthizen:

Just be curious what fruit based name you are also known all over prc and Asia, bamboo freak.  Quite a few in Europe and USA know too, except you obviously.  LoL

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Curiousdude:

yup u r 'know all' moron on this board. evn parasites r earthizen's so u hv rightly named yrself. Lol.

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earthizen:

Keep making a fool of yourself worldwide.  LoL

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Curiousdude:

no crybaby, u hv patentd tht wth yr posts. Lol.

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Age re crime is interesting.

On a slight tangent from the OP, it is a fact that toddlers in the US kill more people per year than Muslim immigrants. I think it is about 22 a year on average. Accidental of course.

Anywway, let China do justice as it does it. OK China is not the most just country in the world, far from it.

Unless your an American nicking expensive sunglasses of course.

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There are different types of Vocational schools, has more to do with translation. Over 13 you should be eligible for the death penalty. Full sentences should be given in the least.

earthizen:

I was thinking about the age too, age thirteen or even lower such as twelve would be reasonable as human at that age generally understand what killing is.

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I totaly completely and utterly reject the death penalty.

Reason number one...Political popuralisim. Killing people to gain votes.

Reason number 2 ... Jesus said no.

Reason number 3. I am a sovereign citizen. What right does a corrupt government have to take my life.

Reason 4. God gave me my life.

Reason 5... If you take my life, in the name of God, and God does not agree.... guess where you are going....

Reason 6. Thou shall not kill.

Reason 7. Forgiveness?

Reason 8. God is American... not Chinese.

Reason 9 . America is about to have peado Roy Moore elected to the senate.

Reason 10.... its none of your fucking business.

Reason 11.... It would be your fucking business if your orange fuckwit knuckle dragging cockwomble commander in chief was actually fighting for human rights.

But the tweet ban did not not apply to him.

So not his fucking problem.

ScotsAlan:

He tweeted from China... not a single word to suggest others should be allowed to. Cockwomble.

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ScotsAlan:

And any so called Christian who calls for the death sentence....Thats the definition of the word ....take your pick.

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Stiggs:

I don't reject the death penalty, not 100% sure I agree with it either but I don't reject it.

 

So let's say you have someone who commits some horrible crime, no remorse, no guilt, no chance of ever fixing the demons in their head and if they get out there's a hundred percent chance they'll go out and try to do it again cos that's how they get their kicks. A serial pedo for example.

 

There's just no way this guy can ever be allowed in society so what's the only other option? Put them in a cage to suffer for the rest of their life.

 

This person is sick in the head, maybe it's not even their fault - bad upbringing, society, abused as a child and all that - but they're infected, like a rabid dog.

 

What do you do with a rabid dog? You can't cure it so you put it out of its misery and ensure it doesn't infect anything else. Locking it up to suffer miserably until the rabies kills it would just be cruel, even if it did bite the postman and maul that school girl.

 

The people who can't be cured and who are only ever going to be a menace to society aren't much different to the rabid dog IMO. The death penalty could be seen as being merciful and removing a cancer. ( OK not the way the Americans or Isis do it, maybe the way China does it)

 

 

 

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diverdude1:

haha Scots,,,Reason #2 cracked me up

 

Jesus:  Darn Pontius, That hurt!  Quit lashing me. I said No!

  Pontius:  Look Jezus, You can stick your No where the sun don't shine, I'm gonna scourge you!

  Jesus:  I said No!

  Pontius:   Oh, ok. I'll stop.   Coffee?

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Shining_brow:

Ummm.... gotta love how there's basically no 'reason' in amongst those 11 reasons.

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ScotsAlan:

Number 1 is valid.

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diverdude1:

haha,,, pretty funny.  sometimes u just want water !

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earthizen:

 

Or these, they better modify the prank though........


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