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Q: What do you think of China's infrastructure?
What are some of the most crazy examples of "infrastructure" and accidents waiting to happen you've seen in China. I've seen everything from black mold in schools to a guy swinging from ropes from side to side across the wall of a building so he could paint it faster, to a man leaning a metal ladder against telephone wires.
1. Their infrastructure has great groundwork but is absolutely ruined by the da lu peasants that haven't figured out how to drive, follow laws, or have common courtesy yet.
2. The construction is shoddy at best.
Let's wait about 50 years.
Dude. Do you know the difference between construction and infrastructure?
Infrastructure is roads, railways, bridges, subway systems, shipping... all the things that allow trade to happen. The movement of people and product.
The Suez canal is infrastructure, the moldy toilet in your apartment is construction.
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China leads the world in infrastructure development.
1. Their infrastructure has great groundwork but is absolutely ruined by the da lu peasants that haven't figured out how to drive, follow laws, or have common courtesy yet.
2. The construction is shoddy at best.
Let's wait about 50 years.
At its best, hardware exists, software lacking. Scoundrels driving cars smell just as awful as pigs wearing ear-rings. Eyesore is the word.
It depends what you're comparing it to but I think it's actually pretty good, especially given the situation maybe twenty years ago.
The highways I've seen have been good, the fast train system has opened the country up and made it a lot easier to get around, there are subway systems in a lot of cities and more are being built, city buses are regular and mostly pretty reliable,the airports serve their purpose (although how they're run is another matter) and more are being built. From what I understand the shipping ports are good too. And the infrastructure is still being developed.
I think I remember reading somewhere that China's infrastructure was a big factor in foreign companies choosing to move their factories there, rather than Vietnam or wherever where they didn't have that. The roads, railway system and ports for shipping are pretty essential if you run a factory.
Balzac, yeah man I've seen the moldy walls, near new buildings that are falling apart and just a general shitty standard of workmanship everywhere you go. TIC.
balzac:
Yeah, I live in a building that's about 10 years old. Its totally trash, the hallways are dirty, footmarks and scuffs up all the walls, wiring and pipes just coming out everywhere. I mean, I'm used to it at this point I guess. But other things like, the door to a closet I have just doesn't open. Gas leaks from one of the pipes. Weather-stripping on the doors is all rotted out. I just don't understand why things can't last longer.
I once had a conversation with a friend from Changsha, Chinese guy, about how he felt about only being able to buy property for 70 (plus a little) years. He sai he didn't mind because after 40 or 50 years it would be in a state of disrepair and falling down anyway. I said the house I grew up in in the states was 200 years old. He simply didn't believe me. To this day I still can't figure out why the construction is so bad sometimes. There are well constructed buildings, but they are super super pricey. Only the very top tier. With newer buildings I see this getting better but still. I don't really buy the whole "chabuduo mentality" 'argument' (if you can call it that) either, there are things in China with great craftsmanship. Teapots, tea leaves, traditional buildings, instruments, etc. But I just don't get why modern buildings are so just thrown together. I'd guess mostly economic. I actually think about this fairly often, as I like architecture quite a bit and pay attention to the structure of things.
