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Q: What woud it happens in an hypothetical war between us, Europe against china?

I guess it is just  hypothetical but I always think that china would be kicked out by NATO countries. Chinese always say that they are very smart they have the best army but I don't think they could beat NATO countries.   

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China would probably do fairly well during the first half of the first day, then it's naptime.....

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China would probably do fairly well during the first half of the first day, then it's naptime.....

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Someone would end up going nuclear. End of story. (for planet earth)

If the war remained conventional; I think those of us with Chinese spouses would be facing a very big problem.  I remember the last two world wars.  In the the 1st one all Germans were sent to concentration camps. Canadian Citizens or not. In the second war all Japs were sent to concentration camps. Canadian citizens or not.  Spouses of these people were constantly being investigated. People are a lot more racist than you think. With war all civility stops even in the west. For the sake of my wife, I would stay in China.

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A war with China means a  war with Russia and NK and a lot of other countries. It would be World War III.

 

Russia will rollerblade Europe.

NK will rollerblade South Korea.

The U.S. will roflstomp all of the above.

 

But it would be a pyrrhic victory; ~2.4 billion people would die.

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I think that all three parties would do their best to shoot and bomb hell out of their biggest trading partners and everyone's economy would crash as a result.  A lot of people would die and the survivors would be left asking if the reason for going to war is worth their new lives of poverty and unemployment.

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Hubris would be their downfall, they'd be sent home like the Nipponese were. Keep in mind that it doesn't have full governance of areas already inside the borders of the country; ever heard a ZhongGuoRen talk about how dangerous Xin Jiang is (though i guess that is mainly in more remote parts)? I also think WWIII would involve radical Muslims as well, not sure how that would play out but they do have nuclear capabilities (Pak.) and a virtually unlimited supply of willing suicide bombers.

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I seriously doubt NATO ability after Afghan war. I am just curious how the latest technology and well trained soldiers failed to deliver against the cavemen of Afghanistan? Yes! You can't do anything against a brute with a vest of explosives coming straight on you, even you shot him/her dead thats going to explode and hit you.

Anyhow you can sing songs but reality is reality.

Englteachted:

Occupying a country is not the same as bombing a country. 

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Bombing a country results in occupying the country ultimately either in chunks or as a whole. Also could go for psychological dominance of a country like Iraq where common masses are afraid of the very name 'USA'.

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NATO didn't plan for Afghanistan. I am sure NATO strategist have a plan for China, if not they should be sacked. 

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Yes, They attacked Afghanistan in a haste. I think of Afghan war as a psychological one where the Afghan Taliban were trained in real time war with Russia and then civil war. I mean from 1979 till 2001(even today) they have a real time war going on. While NATO or US forces were just trained on fictitious war plans. Specially the majority of the soldiers are young enough(under 30s) which also place them on a narrow side in the war.

 

The most important factor is of suicide bombers who are still undefeated and have killed thousands of soldiers and civilians in vicious way. Comparing that to China could be a real tough challenge for NATO.

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Europe vs. China at this moment would be hard to pull off.  How would they reach each other to fight?  All the navies and armies of the Europeans are so much small than before, and they can't project power too far anymore.  In the 19th century France and England fought wars against China.  In modern times this is harder.  One has to see the Falklands War by the British against Argentina. That war stretched the U.K.'s navy pretty far. The Chinese have a growing Navy, but how many bases overseas to resupply.

 

To have a real war, China has to fight with the Russians and the Europeans with the U.S.A.  That would then be a World War.  It maybe possible because of this problem in Ukraine. It hopes it does not happen.

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No, I actually think if there is any war, China would team up with Russia, Iran, and Pakistan and Russia could probably persuade India to join their side as well. Technology wise the West has the huge advantage but Russia and China could make life miserable for Europeans and cut off oil and gas supplies, stop shipping them goods from China, and since all these countries have nuclear weapons, it could turn into a lose-lose war for all parties with just one accident or misunderstanding.  No country can win a land invasion of China, Russia, India or Pakistan with using indiscriminate weapons of mass destruction (chemical or bio weapons). Remember two that these five hypothetical axis countries would have armies and navies that would outnumber the West 3 to 1. So it would not be a cakewalk for the West by any stretch of the imagination. During a war their are many weapons that do not go boom. Like oil and gas, like cyber attacks, and crop destruction. It would be a down and dirty war for sure.

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the sad fact is taking, russia, china, pakistan, india and iran would have actually no benefit whatsoever, the oil and gas is easily replaceable from other sources and the present state of these countries is not worth the trouble, survivors would be of no economic use except cheap labor and bad quality labor standards. they deserve the pile of shit they live in and we dont need any more piles of shit in the west.

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It's so unlikely to happen now and the close future, that we can imagine anything. Here's my proposal

thefidu881:

A Dragon Fighter kept secret by China...

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