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Q: When can the image of Chinese women be changed?

Dinner with a friend from Austria.
We talked about the guy she met in her friend‘s bachelor party in a bar in Austria last week...
She likes him so much, but now she is back to SH, the guy is back to Switzerland. I asked her to invite him to SH, and she was freaked out.
"No, No, No, he cannot come here."
"Why? U want to see him and u guys need time to be together to know each other more."
"Yeah, but not here in SH, don't u see all the Chinese girls out there, what if he likes Chinese more!"
"Come on there r a lot Chinese girls in Switzerland too."
"Yeah, but not like here, Chinese girls here they will do everything to get a foreign bf..."
"I am Chinese too..."
“……”

We r close, maybe she forgot I am Chinese...

On the way home, I passed by several bars, a lot girls were sitting outside. (We know who they r.) There was an old, big western guy coming, all girls went to talk to him... I heard one said, hope this is a rich one...
I know all working girls r the same all over the world, but it makes me feel really sad……

I guess that's why I reject foreign guys so strong, even felt ashamed when I dated that Canadian...

When can this change? Why the world is like this? What can I do?

12 years 29 weeks ago in  Relationships - China

 
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It will take a lot of time especially ones own country. If she lived (or you) in another country it would be easier for you to be with him, but on the other hand it might be harder for him to be with you in his country!
Oh! Love Love is so strange!!

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i dont think the image of chinese women is what you described in shanghai, you described a certain "class of woman" many women that i have come across are simply looking for a real commitment and a devoted husband who will care for them and protect them.
i think the image of chinese women is ok, in that regard. why do you reject foreign guys? there seems to be no correlation between what you describe and rejecting foreign guys. shanghai is not china, (good or bad when it comes to foreigners and chinese )
i think you need a good open minded friend to talk to so you can better understand the many different types of men out there and how/ and which type that fits with what you are searching for in your life.

wenna7:

It related... People here(foreigners) think it's easy to get a Chinese gf, Chinese girls here think it's better to get a foreign bf. When I walked on the street with him, people look at us, some might think we match each other, most people think I am lucky... I am sensitive... Not because I cannot live my own life, but it's the fact that here even foreigners like my friend will think like that... She has been here for 2years, she knows a lot foreign guys...It's just sad...

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i dont think it is a easy to find a chinese gf. i think it is eassy to find a golddigger anywhere in the world

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crimochina:

it is better to have a foreign bf, foreign guys (in general) treat women better as equals, we protect our women with our lives. we are sensitive to their feelings. remember this sweety, dont sacrifice your happiness for anyone. if your friends are thinking anything negative about your happy relationship , screw them they are not real friends. stranges who judge based on site are fking idiots dont let idiots put your life in a box

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wait, so let me get this straight. you dont like the image Chinese women get . you hate the stereotype, yes? Chinese girls all want a rich foreign guy.

and in the same post you go on how you reject foreign guys, and even felt ashamed of ever dating one. so you cast a wide net and reject very foreign guy out their.

why dont you pull your english-chinese dictonary out and look for the word HYPOCRITE

wenna7:

I feel confused... And tried once is enough, I am not that brave. Wanted to do something, but cannot~ And if u think I am hypocrite, I don't care, we r gold diggers, stupid, act like baby... Have u ever think positive about Chinese?

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do i ever think positive about Chinese? maybe about the same as you feel positive about foreigners

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rich45:

come to think of it, your contempt for foreigners is far more negative that anything i feel about Chinese. at least i don't reject a Chinese person right of the bat. at least i wait for them to try and rip me off, or cheat me in some way. most of them don't, but far to many do.

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In fact I only think negtive about foreigners when it comes to relationship with Chinese women, except that America co-worker...

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Wenna...not sure what your Canadian bf did to you but we are not all the same. (OK I am from the same great country)
Bar girls are the same in any country and some guys may stupid enough to think with their dick, but not all do. Thinking all foreign men are players is like me thinking all Chinese men are rude, scamming, insecure little shits...but I am mature enough to know most are not this way...just many.

wenna7:

Yes, I know not all... but most foreigners here r just like that... U can even tell from this website, see how do they describe China and Chinese... Actually the Canadian was nice, I think it's just me, I felt bad to be with him... Felt bad that people think that way, even his friends, I can tell, although they didn't say much... Would save myself from that kind of trouble...

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Sounds like you are insecure wenna, like most Chinese girls. Having said that - nope, don't expect change.
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The image,i think your talking about is only with Chinese people in China in the west Chinese people are seen as hardworking patriotic people,so its the Chinese in China who need to change,people are people and they fall in love for many reasons,money,love,betterlife,

wenna7:

The imagine of western guys in western countries is also quite different...

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No all Chinese girls are the same only some are more likeable than others... Wink All that whoring and stealing... God I love them! Tell your friend she's right, good call the local women will be all over him... Hell you would likely make a move on him being Chinese yourself! Laughing out loud

wenna7:

I wish I can do that. But I know western guys in China so well... Can get nothing from them, most r tourists...

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Aww I actually understand Wenna a bit more after reading this question. I know what it's like to fight so hard to be the opposite of what everyone assumes of you and your people. It can sometimes give you the desire to overcompensate just to prove everyone wrong. Wenna won't date foreign guys, not because she believes they all have these negative qualities, but because she wants to prove that not all Chinese women are golddiggers or obsessed with foreigners.

I'm actually positive that she doesn't believe all the stuff she posts about foreign men being perverts, etc. I'm sure she knows that just like all Chinese women are not the same, all foreign men are not the same. It's probably her effort to strike back harshly after all the harsh attacks that people throw at Chinese women.

That being said I have absolutely no advice for her whatsoever. Just thought I'd point out that I understand. Wink

Oops let me edit before the cat gets me. My advice:

Hmm , it took about 6,000 years for Chinese women to get this reputation. That being said it's certainly going to take a while for it to change BUT I do think that just you being different is already a start. There may be some little Chinese girl in your life whose life you have already impacted just by being the way you are. You and other women like you continue being positive role models, not through aggressively attacking foreign men but just by being yourselves. You may not change all women but you will show people that you are not all the same Smile

kchur:

I think Wenna is often a lot more sardonic and clever than people give her credit for.

12 years 27 weeks ago
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wenna7:

WOW... This exactly is... I just hope, there r more people like u. Thank you for understanding...

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Before you judge someone walk a mile in their shoes, that way you're a mile away and you have their shoes!

 
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I dont think it is a CHINESE women thing, but a female thing in general, regardless of where they are from.
Ok, may the feminists begin their attack! Shock

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This happens all over the world,but in China it is much more prevalent.In westeren world these things are not taken too seriously.But since Easten countries have learned this from Western world,which is more of materilistic and fantasy and this is something different from your culture,you feel sad for this.If we follow the principles which western world follow to develop themselves,we should intake this also.Since all people are running behind materilistic world ,not giving any value to human relations,I mean gadget freaks,people who don't have money just get motivated and somehow  want to make money,for girls making money out of themselves is easy so all this happens.Love people other then loving things made by people,this the only way to solve most of the problems happening in world.

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stop asking your bfs to carry your purse
stop throwing a tantrum on the street.
stop rejecting a guys proposal just because he doesn't have enough money in he bank, doesn't have a car or dosn't own a car.
stop blaming the foreign guys for all your shortcomings.

ps. the keyword is "might". People might change the image of "a" chinese woman. Not all chinese women are same and opinions about any individual should be limited to the individual. Any individual doesn't necessarily represent the mentality of a society or a group of any kind.

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Wenna, you also need to understand that not all foreign men are complete tools and not all Chinese women are gold digging sluts.

Just like anywhere else in the world there are good quality people and bad.

Because China has such a large population, maybe there are more of both here.

Now, some foreign guys are here and enjoy the "ease" of hooking up, but they know that these aren't the kinds of girls you want to marry.  This isn't just China, this is everywhere.If the guy from Switzerland is sincere, there will be no problem if he comes here

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Quite simply, the image of Chinese girls will change when they change. 'Nuff said on that topic.

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I think a large part of the problem is the city she's talking about... Shanghai - the most materialistic, capitalistic (gold-digging) city in all of China. People go to SH because they see it as the place to get rich, to find their fortune, and I daresay, many women (girls) go to Shanghai to potentially hook up with some rich guy to make their life so much easier. Perhaps this is more true for those moving to Shanghai, but also remember that those locals who have the money will automatically have a materialistic mentality - the expectations are just there.

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Wenna I understand where you are coming from, but you seem to fall into two traps yourself.

Firstly for the image of Chinese women you seem to focus on the sluts and I am sure you know not all Chinese women are like that. Are you like that? Are your friends or family members like that. I am sure you and they are not. The image of the gold-digger is not unique to China, there are plenty of these women in every country. The general opinion of Chinese women from where I come from, England, is that they are beautiful, hard working, very caring and very family orientated and very loyal. I am sure you will agree these are all admirable qualities.

Secondly you reject all foreign men. Is this not a litlle like stereotyping all men like you believe all Chinese women are stereotyped. Yes there are enough, mainly the young ones, who just want to hang around the bars, take a woman home, have sex ( note I did not say make love), forget her name and move onto the next one. Again these men can be found in all countries, but as I say they are mainly younger guys doing what young guys do. In the same way as all Chinese women are not all the same, not all foreign men are the same. Many of us value the friendship, love and loyalty of the right sort of Chinese women. It may surprise you to know that many western men choose to look for their wives in Asia purely because of these qualities, and because they are lacking in a lot of western women, not all, but a lot.

There is no reason to feel ashamed about dating a foreign man. People will judge you on who you are and how you behave. Perhaps you should date the western man just to show everyone that you are not like the pick-up girls at the bars and KTV places. If you ever come to Nanning I would be happy to introduce you to my wife, who is Chinese, her family and some of the other Chinese women I know, and believe me none of them are gold diggers.

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It's called a stereotype.
It's dangerous and hurtful. 
The example you just cited of the bar girls gold digging foreigners is just a result of poverty and media driven materialism. The desire to get ahead in life and leave the impoverished life for those girls is too strong. Stronger than the pull of real love.

And it's not only in China. It's everywhere. Just more common in China because of the huge population and the fact that China recently opened up to the world.
But if you also hold a grudge against foreign guys, then you're just re-enforcing a whole different stereotype altogether.
Stereotypes mess up this world and will hinder human development.  

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Make a stand! The change begins Tuesday next...
...after lunch, of course.

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Its not only Chinese girls.. its like this all over the world.. the cheap girls are after money, and they in the minority... 3 years ive been here i dated 7 girls.... and only 1 was after money, i had a doctor gf, she was very rich, 3 houses, ofice buildinf and another business, she wasnt after my wallet. Wena be assured, there are many rotten applease in every country, both men and woman..

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I'm not sure but I just read an article that had the same views that you did.http://home.24en.com/space-155015-do-blog-id-23981.html

You can agree with it or not but I guess more people feel the same way that you do. Change has to be done by yourself and no other person. It's hard to change someone's mind or opinion once it has been set in stone. 

I found this article when I clicked on this picture. For some reason it took me straight to that article. 

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