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Q: When dealing with this immigrant crises should european nation learn from China?

Was just wondering that when compared with Europe, china is way safer than europe and aint talking just about Shanghai.

8 years 10 weeks ago in  General  - China

 
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it's a bit of a unfair argument. China controls youth by keeping them locked inside schools and bombarding them with shame, misinformation and pressure. As a result, streets are relatively safe. All that's needed, is the will to rob the youth of its childhood freedom. It sure is clean to throw the baby out with the bathwater!

as mentioned, underreported problems re rife in China. Plenty of unemployed, idle men with pressure to succeed at all costs, and no regard for others. You can't tell me nothing much happens.

over 100.000 mass public incidents last year for the government to worry about, but everything's rosy in the evening news. of course it is. face matters here, truth is a nuisance.

Syrians are scarecrows. The rape stories might be true, or might be staged to achieve the desired result.

2 idle Syrian refugees loitering on your street. Are you worried? That was the whole idea! Results:
X new cars and service checks bought [we don't want to be without car and have to use publictransport with Syrians]
X new fences and shutters installed
X insurance packages upgraded to include theft and assault
X hypertension medication sold
X purchases of pepperspray and worse (I recently got my nervous wife one too)
X security installations ordered

Don't get me wrong, Syrians are creepy, delusional Arab thugs more often than not. But they are just pawns. They are lured to Europe with the promise of money, stuck in Asylum camps for months, shunned, mocked and given the bureaucratic runaround. Then they are set free in the country they have learned to loathe. Rapes seem tragically preventable, which makes one wonder what the government's policy is towards its people.

Call me a cynical conspiracy theorist, but it just seems awfully convenient that the big scare ends up lining the pockets of the top 1%, due to the businesses they own. Normal folksdon't usually own pharmaceutical, contruction, insurance, arms, or security businesses. So only the very rich profit, while the middle class in Europe is scared into spending some of its savings.

How on Earth does this situation compare to China? China has a government class, not a middle class. You need to get your facts straight before you start gloating about China's greatness.

icnif77:

It looks, dissolving of EU is in the cards with Krouts start to 'temporary' abandon Schengen's open border policy.

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coineineagh:

the 1951 refugee treaty was a result of the Marshall Plan. It was a nice idea at the time, but now it's just an excuse for opportunity seekers with no ties to the destination country, to settle easily. the vast majority of political refugees migrate to Europe for mainly economic reasons, ignoring more culturally compatible countries nearby. refugee status is not intended for economic migrants. the refugee convention needs to be amended or abandoned. but those who came here before the amendment must be treated with respect and according to the rules.

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icnif77:

While I'm not sure about 'opportunity'....ME get bombed hard, and EU can be reached by ground transportation and walk.

The major miss in settling is non-acceptance of the rules in hosting country by settlers. I read, there are parts in Holland, Belgium, Sweden, where cops hesitate to enter 'settlers' areas in the big cities.

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Syrians r creepy ... well you got that right. Im from Lebanon, bordered by Syria. They r the most back stabbing b@stards ive ever seen. We unfortunately took the biggest portion  of the refugee influx, Country population is 5 million and we have around 2 million refugees now. They steal, they rape, they lie, the vandalize etc ... And lets not forget about these islamic fckers. When ever we talk to any of them, they just want to escape to the EU. I hope the EU is prepared for another wave of those bloody idiots. For every one here who have a family back home, tell ur family to stay away from them.

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Yeah,because unreported rapes and sexual assaults aren't a thing, right?

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Don't forget murders filed as suicides or accidents.

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it's a bit of a unfair argument. China controls youth by keeping them locked inside schools and bombarding them with shame, misinformation and pressure. As a result, streets are relatively safe. All that's needed, is the will to rob the youth of its childhood freedom. It sure is clean to throw the baby out with the bathwater!

as mentioned, underreported problems re rife in China. Plenty of unemployed, idle men with pressure to succeed at all costs, and no regard for others. You can't tell me nothing much happens.

over 100.000 mass public incidents last year for the government to worry about, but everything's rosy in the evening news. of course it is. face matters here, truth is a nuisance.

Syrians are scarecrows. The rape stories might be true, or might be staged to achieve the desired result.

2 idle Syrian refugees loitering on your street. Are you worried? That was the whole idea! Results:
X new cars and service checks bought [we don't want to be without car and have to use publictransport with Syrians]
X new fences and shutters installed
X insurance packages upgraded to include theft and assault
X hypertension medication sold
X purchases of pepperspray and worse (I recently got my nervous wife one too)
X security installations ordered

Don't get me wrong, Syrians are creepy, delusional Arab thugs more often than not. But they are just pawns. They are lured to Europe with the promise of money, stuck in Asylum camps for months, shunned, mocked and given the bureaucratic runaround. Then they are set free in the country they have learned to loathe. Rapes seem tragically preventable, which makes one wonder what the government's policy is towards its people.

Call me a cynical conspiracy theorist, but it just seems awfully convenient that the big scare ends up lining the pockets of the top 1%, due to the businesses they own. Normal folksdon't usually own pharmaceutical, contruction, insurance, arms, or security businesses. So only the very rich profit, while the middle class in Europe is scared into spending some of its savings.

How on Earth does this situation compare to China? China has a government class, not a middle class. You need to get your facts straight before you start gloating about China's greatness.

icnif77:

It looks, dissolving of EU is in the cards with Krouts start to 'temporary' abandon Schengen's open border policy.

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coineineagh:

the 1951 refugee treaty was a result of the Marshall Plan. It was a nice idea at the time, but now it's just an excuse for opportunity seekers with no ties to the destination country, to settle easily. the vast majority of political refugees migrate to Europe for mainly economic reasons, ignoring more culturally compatible countries nearby. refugee status is not intended for economic migrants. the refugee convention needs to be amended or abandoned. but those who came here before the amendment must be treated with respect and according to the rules.

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icnif77:

While I'm not sure about 'opportunity'....ME get bombed hard, and EU can be reached by ground transportation and walk.

The major miss in settling is non-acceptance of the rules in hosting country by settlers. I read, there are parts in Holland, Belgium, Sweden, where cops hesitate to enter 'settlers' areas in the big cities.

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AhmadKoudrah:

Syrians r creepy ... well you got that right. Im from Lebanon, bordered by Syria. They r the most back stabbing b@stards ive ever seen. We unfortunately took the biggest portion  of the refugee influx, Country population is 5 million and we have around 2 million refugees now. They steal, they rape, they lie, the vandalize etc ... And lets not forget about these islamic fckers. When ever we talk to any of them, they just want to escape to the EU. I hope the EU is prepared for another wave of those bloody idiots. For every one here who have a family back home, tell ur family to stay away from them.

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There aren't any immigrants or refugees going to Europe at the moment, only invaders, aka able bodied young males from territories at war. There is zero reason it should be happening. The people allowing for this to happen are legally traitors who would belong to a lifetime in prison or a firing squad in most countries on this planet.

 

Their motives range anywhere on the conspiracy scale from racial cleansing to horizontal conflicts (civil wars) or economical. Doesn't matter. No reason it should be happening.

 

Protecting borders isn't some piece of mystical knowledge or a highly technical skill we strangely forgot.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit

 

The prescription drugs have stopped and detox has cleared her mind to actually think, I never thought the left would actually starting thinking again. Maybe there is some hope left. Fu**ing Idiots.

ambivalentmace:

If you your master plan is to have robots replace the middle class deplorables and phase out these working trash, you have to fool them better, flooding the working class with cheap immigrants and lower labor costs and pissing them off want get their votes.

 

Yes, Yes, I know you have to flood cheap labor to get them dependent on government and then brainwash the future slaves in school not to work, but until the robots run everything and get the big European army to quell dissent and troublemakers, you still need a way to fool the workers and keep getting that power to rule the working slaves. Keep working on it , you will figure something out, let them eat cake.

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diverdude1:

yeah,,,, I thougt it was pretty funny how she finally got the balls to speak the truth.  Must have hurt,, haha!   even though she tried to twist it around to like she wasn't worried about the illegal invaders, just worried about thm making an environment for the rise of Right Wingers.

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In paris, so many immigrants, I saw black spitting on the street, street is so disgusting, I was so careful in case the shits get on my shoes.Also Brussel and Rotterdam, there are a lotvof immigrants. One girl told me they come for good social welfare. Why Europe us so easy to open the gate for them?

ScotsAlan:

Spitting in the street. Disgusting. In all my years in China, I have never seen Chinese spit in the street, in hispitals, in schools, in restaurants, in fields, kitchens, bars, fields, mountains, on boats, on planes, in offices, busses or cars. Europe sounds bad if people are spitting on the ground. I best stay in no spit China.

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