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Sign up with Google Sign up with FacebookQ: Which Chinese politician do you think is the most inspirational and charismatic?
It's a bit like asking which Jewish athlete is the most admirable. Slim pickings...
What about that party line sniffing, talentless hack who is the governor of Guangdong province. It was nice to see what a proactive and dynamic leader he was when the CCTV documentary was aired about prostitution in Dongguan.
Lose'a face!
Regarding charisma:
Xi Jinping is tall and has a nice voice. It's deep, sonorous, and a bit like I'd imagine the antichrist's voice. Probably no coincidence there. If anyone has the extended version of Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, listen to the servant of Sauron who meets Aragorn at the gates of Mordor - he has the same voice.
I hate Xi Jinping's smug, squinty, dishonest grin, but he has more presence than any of his recent predecessors or the grovelling, incompetent, charisma-less, microscopic-penised weasels who make up the rest of the party.
Regarding inspiration:
If I was inspired by fat tummies, incompetence in the bedroom, or the lack of marketable skills, it'd be tough to narrow down the field. But I'm not.
laowaigentleman:
You are so generous, you didn't mention the annual supply of shoe polish used by your average Chinese office worker which he dumps into his hair every two days.
Actually several Jewish athletes have been world class, in particular Mo Berg, but it's a long list...the first non asian Judoka medalist was Israeli...
laowaigentleman:
Give me the benefit of the doubt and supply me with a better analogy, by all means :-)
rasklnik:
It's long...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jews_in_sports
granted some are silly, but several are major league/Gold medal Olypmpic winners.
laowaigentleman:
No, I don't care about the sports trivia, man! I'm not autistic!!! :-p I want you to give me a better analogy for kleptocratic and charisma devoid self-anointed bottom-feeders with a splash of irony... :-D
rasklnik:
You said jews suck at sporst...I provided you with a list of Jewish athletes, you ignored it...you are either a vicious anti-semite or a troll.
laowaigentleman:
There is a third option. As a jew myself on my mother's side, it could be self-deprecation...
You are a dick! Jumping on a PC bandwagon in the 21st century is sad...
Note I said jewish superstar athletes, not competent professionals. There is a difference. You are a lame, sanctimonious, ultra-literal dullard.
laowaigentleman:
I hope you don't teach English if you don't know what an analogy is. Mind you, you wouldn't be much worse than some of the foreigners I've met in this bloody place...
I met a guy who made 10,000 a month and he couldn't spell "obscure". The managers thought he was wonderful because he had a loud mouth and walked like he was "cool".
Meh, what a question!
It's like asking who has the best figure from a group of sumo wrestlers!
laowaigentleman:
My student asked me just this despite my requests to them not to ask me about these kinds of things.
I'm putting it to you. I said none are compelling or interesting and then said I'm saying nothing more.
Sun Yat Sen was inspiring, he had a dream, he worked to make it happen. His work have been usurped after his death by scumbags. Yeah, like that bald military genius...
Zhou En Lai, who was a torch of rationality in a world of madness.
Xu Zhiyong, for having balls of tungsten and trying to create a civil society while you guys are being snarky and not even trying. There are courageous Chine people with political will, and not mere aping of somebody. By not even trying to look at them and just throwing sarcasm ("lol stupid Chinese"), you have that very Chinese attitude of giving up before even trying. If you don't know any decent politicians, it does not means they don't exist.
laowaigentleman:
I know who Xu Zhiyong is. I also know who Liu Xiaobiao is too. I don't count them as politicians because they are dissidents and the Chinese government says that they don't have dissidents, therefore they aren't Chinese politicians.
I'm no chauvinist. There's no need to mount the western masochistic cultural relativist high horse when I'm around, my friend.
DrMonkey:
Because your questions are totally not of the "high horse" flavor ? I didn't make comparisons here, nothing relativist. And I shall keep riding my, hu... high donkey ^^
Those guys *are* politicians, they do or did politics, with new, fresh ideas relevant to the specifities of modern China. They are Chinese, educated in China, they can't be dismissed as mere foreign influences. They are the living proof that grass root civil society is possible here too : they emerged in a 100% Chinese environment. Dismissing them because they are dissidents, it's more little step to silence those people. It's destroying any sign that Chinese people *can* be master of their own society, rather than being push-overs. There is a bit of green grass and your stepping on it. Or are you just in need of an outlet to deflate a BCD ?
ScotsAlan:
Yup Dr M.
There was lots of people who believed in what they were doing. And you have to respect them for that.
Zhou En Lai was a fantastic politician. It is my firm belief he tried to save as many people from the madness as he could. But he had to be political about it, because he could save nobody if he was dead.
China has many heroes worthy of their face on a banknote .
Lol. We have Adam Smith on Scottish Bank notes
laowaigentleman:
Go easy on me please folks, you might have guessed that my day was awful and I'm about to endure another one.
Chinese politics is none of my business. My country is small and has a good relationship with China, so the last thing they need is some lone idiot making them look bad.
My Chinese father in-law and his daughter will be charged with taking me to task this weekend.
Won't be pretty, I can assure you.
I don't get your reference to Jewish Athletes.
You ask this question, and you ask a question related to Nazi Germany. (Goodwin's law).
Grandpa Wen made it clear when a certain person was arrested....... there will be no personality cult in China. Those days are finished.
If you don't know what the above refers to.... you need to read a bit more
laowaigentleman:
The joke was taken from that most vile of anti-semitic movies, "Airplane".
A woman asked for some light reading and the flight attendant gave her an almanac entitled "Jewish sports legends".
Lighten up, my Scottish friend, yeesh!
(godwin's law)No idea, there's a picture on display up the road and, other than Mao, i'm not sure which is which, but the one I think is Deng Xiao Ping looks like my nan, so i'm gonna pick him.
ScotsAlan:
I agree.
The man who changed china. He learned the hard way what charrissma does.
Put the light on, so to speak. Don't give a flying fuck what colour the cat is.
Scandinavian:
It was Deng who gave order to shoot in eighty-nine. He might have gotten the finances going, but he sure wasn't a decent person. Heck, even Mao kept him under lockup for a while.
Useful idiot is to Chamberlin as
Panda hugger is to Edger Snow
I do know analogy blyat...
i think the realities of leading china draws or changes people into unscrupulous politicians. maybe Mao Zedong had lofty goals to start with (abolished footbinding and other uncivilized practices), but he ended up starving people and cautioned by the party for trying to pocket food export profits.
i'll admit i dont know enough about chinese political history to identify an admirable figure in it. but at least my knowledge is at the same level as most local chinese, who know mostly misrepresentative lies and have no interest in "boring " history and politics.
I only clicked once - I swear! Don't know what happened. Sorry
Dr. San Yat Sen and Zhou En Lai are the two most unselfish leaders of China that I admire most. Perhaps they did not achieve all of heir goals, but it certainly was not for lack of effort. Death got in their way.
Better question: Which lump of crap smells the best?