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Q: Who and What Are You?

There is a forum member who constantly attempts to belittle other forum members. This person employs passive-aggressive behavior on almost every occasion. As such, I thought to ask a few questions:

Who, and what are you? Do you really know yourself? Are you doing what you're doing on your own merit or are you a boot-licking sycophant? 

Do you live in an ivory tower and look down on others or can you understand the circumstances, limitations and motivations that bring others here (China and the forums), keep them here, and empathize with them?

Do you understand that your outlook and experiences are not the same as others?

Do you believe that others have their right to their opinions and, unless they're an obvious troll, they're entitled to post them without disparagement?

It has been my experience in China (15 years) that expats come here to escape the drudgery of a 40+ hour workweek and "paying lip-service to the 'man.'" Do you condone becoming another drone and perpetuating the very practices that you railed against and reviled in your home country?

 

I live my life according to gnothi seauton...know thyself. Always remember, "When person 'A' complains about person 'B', you learn much more about person 'A' than person 'B'." I know a lot about you, person 'B', and you're the kind of person who'll give me a nod and smug smile when you see me...and I'll ignore you as I would any other pile of dog-doo on the street.

 

 

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A questionnaire!  Assume! 

 

Who, and what are you?

 I am Frank, I am an America

 Do you really know yourself?

Ya, I rock

 Are you doing what you're doing on your own merit or are you a boot-licking sycophant?

Pretty sure own merit. 

Do you live in an ivory tower and look down on others or can you understand the circumstances, limitations and motivations that bring others here (China and the forums), keep them here, and empathize with them?

I am pretty sure I don't.  I am on the 13th floor, got a good view of the pool.

Do you understand that your outlook and experiences are not the same as others?

I don't use outlook, I use gmail.  Not the same experiences as others.

Do you believe that others have their right to their opinions and, unless they're an obvious troll, they're entitled to post them without disparagement?

I think everyone has the right to free speech, and everyone has the right to criticize others speech.  And has the right to be a troll.  What is it with this guy and trolls?  

It has been my experience in China (15 years) that expats come here to escape the drudgery of a 40+ hour workweek and "paying lip-service to the 'man.'" Do you condone becoming another drone and perpetuating the very practices that you railed against and reviled in your home country?

Yes, I mean no, I mean what is he saying anyway?  I think it is fun to vent once in awhile.    

mike695ca:

hahahaha gmail haha genius!

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Hey that is completely untrue! 

I would never smile and nod to you. 

Sinobear:

That would save an potentially embarrassing incident and a future post about why other foreigners never recognize each other on the street.

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Since I study Englo intensively, I would like to point out grammatical mistake in your post @Sino!

 

'Article 'an' is mostly used in front of the words begin with vowel as a, e, i, o, u....'

Please, 'add-it'! angel

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Isn't that corny? You meet laowai, and he/she pretend: 'I'm the only one in China'

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Well based on the fact that we just got into it and have in the past im going to assume that your referring to me. So as someone who never lets anything slide i will endulge your little rant.

"Who, and what are you? Do you really know yourself? Are you doing what you're doing on your own merit or are you a boot-licking sycophant?"

I my friend am better than you. Any aspect of life you wish to choose i win and you lose. As a self proclaimed ass and narcissist ,yeah i know myself well. If you have read my posts or blog, yeah i have what i have based on merit and hard work. I also am the highest ranking member of my company in China , so yeah, no one to ass kiss. But i would if it would benifit me. I really love when lazy people claim they dont get successful based on a refusal to kiss ass. This makes your little claim that you know thyself quite humorous. Big words by the way. Good for you! FYI this is a forum made up largely of teachers. You have impressed none. Commence feeling like a tool.

"Do you live in an ivory tower and look down on others or can you understand the circumstances, limitations and motivations that bring others here (China and the forums), keep them here, and empathize with them?"

I dont look down on many especially those that truly know themselves. But yeah i do have a problem with useless tits like you. This is exactly why i keep running into the same 4 or 5 tools yet largely get on well with everyone else. You missunderstand my looking down on you as a financial thing, when its not. I have been in your shoes and many of my friends still are. Dont over complicate things. I just hate useless twats.

"Do you understand that your outlook and experiences are not the same as others? "

Yes i completely understand that which is why i very rarely reply to anything you have to say, no matter how stupid or inflammatory. Yet you havent connected the dots yet... You keep coming to MY POSTS. And then call me an asshole when i respond. Your like one of those petulant little kids that keep antagonizing his older brother yet cries when he cant win.

"Do you believe that others have their right to their opinions and, unless they're an obvious troll, they're entitled to post them without disparagement?
It has been my experience in China (15 years) that expats come here to escape the drudgery of a 40+ hour workweek and "paying lip-service to the 'man.'" Do you condone becoming another drone and perpetuating the very practices that you railed against and reviled in your home country?"

This is shocking.... 15 years? And your still so useless? Jesus, you must be thick, you would think after so long some idiot must have thought it would be a good idea to give you a shot. I guess chinese are smarter than i thought. This whole paragraph just stinks of your shame. No, that is incorrect. People do not come here to avoid working hard and paying lip service to the man. Just you and your useless folk. People come here for love, excitment, travel, opportunities. A million reasons. The very fact that you think anyone who works 9 to 5 is a drone shows that you will be useless forever. Just quit on life man. What will you do when your 60? No money no visa no one who cares if your alive. ( This has to be soon right). Your going to wish you were a drone then. In fact i bet you do know. This is why every post you ever made is filled with nothing but anger and negativity. BTW how dare you claim I dont empathize? Just reading any of your posts about china show that your a fucking hypocritical douche. I dont empathize with YOU.

"I live my life according to gnothi seauton...know thyself. Always remember, "When person 'A' complains about person 'B', you learn much more about person 'A' than person 'B'." I know a lot about you, person 'B', and you're the kind of person who'll give me a nod and smug smile when you see me...and I'll ignore you as I would any other pile of dog-doo on the street."

If you knew yourself one little bit you would stop talking immediatly, realize that you are 100% to blame for your shitty life and not China, and stop walking around like a fucking know it all.
Your last point makes perfect sense. But, again, showing you really dont look inward, you have written a whole post complaining about me thus proving your point and showing everyone alot about you person A.

You would never have the chance to ignore me my friend, while you are waiting for the bus i will be driving past, in a neighborhood you cant afford to live in doing fun shit you cant afford to do. And thats the end result isnt it? This is all a time waster to me as I wait for dinner. Im enjoying myself thoroughly,
Try enjoying yours.

Sinobear:

My god! You just did a better job on yourself than I ever could.

One question, since you come off as a self-centered 14-year-old (and your spelling, grammar and diction are at a lower level than that), how could you possibly get a legal visa at your age? Adults (save sociopaths) do not operate on a system of, "I am god and you are not me therefore you are not god therefore you should worship me because I am god and thus all-powerful and you are not all-powerful therefore you are not me who is a god." Join us Mike, come down from the ivory tower and then dismount from your high horse. Stop the swag bs and learn to be a gentleman.

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You do realize that attacking spelling while having zero retort to my truths is only proving im correct right? I didnt expect you to agree with me whole heartedly but this is damn close!

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Sinobear:

In critical thinking, saying "As we all know..." is a faux pas - implying that those who would disagree with you must be stupid.  Saying "...my truths..." is along the same lines. What truths? You don't know me (because I surround myself with educated people and not sycophants)

And, best of all, you think this thread is about you. Oops! You were wrong, but if the shoe fits...

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Here you go skirting around the post again.Know thyself my ass. By the way who are these highly educated people you speak of? Are they also in the same boat? Came to china to waste their life? Dont want to be a drone? No, you guys used this higher education you speak of to teach english in a third tier city for a salary that cant even support a family. So they must suffer while you hide behind these fake morals of not giving into these gold digging whores! Wow what a waste of an education. Must be disheartening. Your mother must be so proud.

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mike695ca:

Really its not about me? I know im a narcissistic but please enlighten us! Who is it then? Funny how youve been replying to me for hours about it and just chose to tell me now.

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Support a family? Why my loving wife and two sons are doing great. I have time to spend with them in the mornings and walk them to school. I have time to pick them up after school and play with them in the evenings...no waiting for my lord and master to separate his ass from my lips before I go home...no weekends to worry about because my life is my own.

Look up the word, "pathetic" because that is what you are. 100%. You're emotionally immature and have a grandiose opinion of yourself and your place in society. You can do nothing but hurl eggs at rocks due to your inadequacy.

"...i (sic) very rarely reply to anything you have to say..." Well, you've proved, quite publicly, that that is wrong. Keep digging, I am obviously getting more under your skin than you can handle. Hee hee hee.

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Finally! An actual reply! Your finally getting the hang of this... You need to improve your reading though... It has been made pretty clear that i am the boss. I go to work when i feel like it and go home when ive decided its time. Yes i work alot. I find it funny that you think this is a bad thing. Like the dad in the unemployment line bragging about spending time with family. Im glad you can spend time with your kids. Now if you would only provide for them... Its brutal that your only retort is that im an ass kisser. Please let me know how you came to this conclusion? Where as i have hundreds of your posts that show your a lazy, selfish , angry twat. Every word you have ever said on this site is " chinese are stupid and horrible! Fuck chinese women fuck mother in laws! I will do nothing for anyone because that takes work! If i am pathetic, fine, Ok. Yet i am happy and every post you have ever made sais you have fucked up your life so bad you have forgotten what happiness is.

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'Love is in the air..tra-lalalalalala

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Sinobear:

I do not use the "f" word as I am well-bred. It seems that you are showing your true colors of the trailer-trash-set.

Dig, dig, dig deeper.

I would have no problem with my employers, future, current or past, reading my posts, but you, methinks, would spend many an uncomfortable moment explaining your lack of couth.

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mike695ca:

Yes. Once again you have shown that dancing for rich kids is all you will ever do because aparently you have no idea how a factory works.... Id be just fine thank you very much.

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mike695ca:

Of course you would show your bosses, they couldnt understand it anyways which is why they hired you. Past employers: kiddy school. Kindergarten, kiddy school. Present : self deprication for money. Future: homelessness.

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What are you talking about sinobear? You act like having a good job means 100% you spend your time kissing ass. That's wishful thinking on your part. 

 

Corporate jobs can be really stimulating and challenging. I do a lot of analytics and excel dashboard-type stuff and I find it really interesting. It's fun problem solving. My boss likes me because i'm good at my job and have a good attitude in general.

 

It's really good to try and learn from people who are where you want to go. My boss is a pretty solid guy...I want to be VP someday and there's a lot I can learn from someone who is a VP. I'm lucky to have someone willing to mentor me, and I'm an eager protege.

 

That must make me a real piece of shit, right? People like me and mike and RobK as well fought to carve out something good for ourselves here, instead of settling for falling ass-backwards into automatic ESL jobs. I'm hoping to take my skills back home to a solid position in the next 12 months. 

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@expatlife i wouldnt worry about him. Not even sinobear is so stupid to mean it. Its just alot easier to look in the mirror if you can convince yourself that everything happens for a reason and anyone who has accomplished anything only did it by pure luck and signing pacts with the devils. Calling us ass kissing pieces of shit is so much easier than looking within.

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preaching to the choir my friend. 

 

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royceH:

Icni....I think you mean "Love is in the air....everywhere I look around..."

Check it out.  John Paul Young.  It was a real big deal in its day.

 

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icnif77:

@royce: 'I don't remember, who was rolling that song. It wasn't anything close to 'favorites', but it was on and on and on'. I meant: 'Love is in the air, everywhere I read……around….' O2 

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"instead of settling for falling ass-backwards into automatic ESL job"

 

You know some of us on here actually chose this line of work?? And location.

 

I know I'm possibly in the minority, but that's what I did... and many a person has said they're 'proud' of me, or 'admire' me for doing so. It has given me the chance to inspire other people to do something similar with their lives

 

So, grouping all ESL teachers into the 'loser' category is offensive...

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expatlife26:

@shining...well you're right that was offensive and I apologize for the wording.

 

But it's true that it IS pretty much an automatic job to get. You don't have to pound the pavement send out a million resumes, network like crazy and deal with constant stress/disappointment just trying to get into entry level job in a crowded marketplace. There IS a teaching job for every native speaker here who wants one...and then some. The bar is set pretty low, and with free housing, utilities out of your name etc. you can be pretty irresponsible and still keep your job.

 

That doesn't mean you can't do it well and that doesn't mean that you can't own it and make it into something respectable for yourself.

 

But it does mean it'll take all comers, and that the ceiling for where you can go with it is gonna be fairly low, though better than some alternatives.

 

It's just not for everyone...you chose it, you like it that's awesome. 

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Fight, fight , fight .....

Sinobear:

Nah, this is all in good fun. An emotionally immature person (most likely poor white trash from a trailer park who managed to kiss ass sufficiently to get where it is today - firmly attached to its boss' ass) is an easy target...now a true sociopath is a challenge!

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mike695ca:

Funny how i keep seeing that over and over again. Useless twats claiming that others succeses must be some form of luck. Im rich because of luck and your useless because of... Bad luck is it? Again i cant help but go back to your " motto" in life. Know thyself. Fuck you will completly humiliate yourself for the chance to use big words. Your my new favorite toy.

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icnif77:

Once, some movie director in LA said to me: 'I can make you rich!'

 

I replied: 'I was born rich!'

 

I was really saying, I was born with 'big&full' upper head!

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Robk:

Sinobear I see your typing, but my brain is translating it like this:

 

"Damn it, I am obviously the smartest person on this forum... probably the world... obviously. How can this guy be so much dumber than me and have a better lifestyle and situation than I? Preposterous! How dare he give out advice on MY BOARDS!

 

This peon certainly brown-nosed and slept his way to the top, while I, the great one, would never stoop so low... because I, YES I, KNOW THY SELF!" *triumphant pose*

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@RobK: I'm not the one name-calling and debasing others.

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Oh please, this isn't debasing or putting down others? 

 

Sinobear - "So, you're a shill. I don't know anyone making "6 figures" or more who has time to post on this sort of forum. BTW: check your spelling of "university".
 

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I know people like you, you think that because you are smart that makes you superior to others. Maybe you fancy yourself as being an intellectual and try to belittle those that hold some sort of a threat to your ideology of life? 

 

Your quote from a previous time proves you simply can't believe that one could earn such an income. It simply can't exist because they are too busy. That's where you are inferior, if you had worked hard... and taken action, rather than sat around thinking you were so smart (trust me I used to do this) you would understand that you start to get amazingly good at what you do, you also learn to delegate tasks and expand. This leaves you with more free time and bigger rewards. 

 

This is how I am certain that you don't have a clue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cool down guys, temperature has infiltrated your rage....

Sinobear:

Points all around for the spectators! Grab a seat and watch the spectacle (it takes a little while for one of the participants to look up all of the "big words" in the dictionary, get over the butthurt and then formulate its reply on its speak-and-spell).

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royceH:

Hey Doc, I clicked the up-vote and it went from 6 to 8.  Cool!  You deserve every one that's coming your way.  I predict 33 up-votes by May 4th, and that'll make you the up-voted champion of this very weird little universe.

 

 

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Robk:

I up-voted him too, that's an awesome .gif lol.

 

I would up-vote it to +1000 if I could. 

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skunkman:

He eats like a girl...

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He does eat like girl, because he opens his mouth and hand in the same time

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I left for two days, and this tread became even more craptacular with moar over-the-top batshit arguments. Complete with your trolling wumao wannabe du jour.



Need more popcorn.

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Ditto for me

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I wonder, could I be able take on editor's job at eChinacities? I want my spot in society.

 

You all watch your spelling and things here! 

mike695ca:

Hahaha, youd definatly be better than what they currently have.

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icnif77:

Am paying attention to all you Naive English speakers!

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mike695ca:

And we appreciate it! Where are you from anyways? You often speak of florida....

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icnif77:

'Everybody comes from her/his mom' Don't ask now, where's my mother from?

 

I'm warning you, 'cause people were asking me 2nd partbefore......

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Naive English?

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Gatto Italiano

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MissA, you were absent, when 881 came up with 'Non-Naive' English teacher. It wasn't mistake! Intentionally!

@Sino: you are very close, but no 'Io non sono Italiano'! Do you remember, when I got 'post of the week' with Q: 'What means P.S.?O2, 02 Traveler replied: 'And he is an English teacher!O2, o2

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Oh my favorite 'non Naive' speakers....

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What a strange thread. I had to double check I was not reading SZstuff for a moment there.

mike695ca:

Haha your from SZ too? I come here, sz stuff is too hardcore for me.

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Nah. I'm in GZ. I am registered with GZ stuff ,but I have a look at SZ stuff when I want a laugh 

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Lots of spectators...where are the participants? Let's have some answers!

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@Mike - it is pretty obvious you are the main target of this post. 

 

He is also referring to the other people on the forum that  he perceives as selling out or "looking down on others from an ivory tower" for whatever reason. 

 

@Sinobear - Sharing tales of success and personal goals doesn't mean you are bragging. Passionate people share their passion. They may not express it in a way that pleases YOU but you will hear about it nevertheless. Will it motivate you, inspire you or will it remind you of how YOU are wasting your life away and doing nothing about it? 

 

It seems by your post that the latter is taking place. 

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In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with having a big ego and taking pride in what you do and sharing it with others. The only problem is if your ego gets in the way of your self-reflection and development. 

 

Sinobear my 32 years of experience on planet Earth states that almost EVERYONE is trying to put you down or doesn't care if you succeed or fail (most people WANT you to fail so they can feel good about their lives). Sinobear you strike me more of a pompous ass than Mike.

 

He is a passionate person that comes off as being a dick (which is partially necessary to brush aside all the naysayers), but you just seem like a dick starting up this "passive-aggressive" attack and pretending like you are the better man for "being thy self". 

 

It is possible for people to work hard, be successful while doing their own thing and having not sold themselves out. But you would never admit that because it would break your fragile ego. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

mike695ca:

I dont want to add anything because it will just egg him on to spouting more nonsense but still... You and expat... Ive racked up quite a few IOU's over time. Hope theres a chance you guys will be in HK or southern China so that i may pay up.

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Rob: you didn't answer my questions! Is the ADHD acting up or is it the ego getting in the way of normal discourse?

Is there some reason why you cannot parlay without ad hominem attacks?

I don't need others to defend me, as I am a big boy, but it seems that those who claim to be supramen (yes, the spelling is correct) need peons to support them at every step.

In your opinion, "...there is nothing wrong with having a big ego and taking pride in what you do and sharing with others." No, there's not. But there is a difference between the above and gloating, grandstanding and condescension.

What it seems is, none of your delicate egos can stand any circumspection. You attack me, call me a loser, poor, blah, blah, blah. You have no idea who I am or what I do. You (both) constantly use derogatory terms which are the signs of those without class and culture.

So, I'll end this with a simple phrase that your sandbox mentalities should be able to grasp: I am rubber and you are glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

 

 

 

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Robk:

Answering your questions directly (from this post) would entail that I actually respect you and your post, both of which, I do not. Nor did you have the courage to ask out directly, and I do not respect men of cowardice. 

 

Since you mentioned that I didn't answer your questions, you are admitting that they were meant for me but again, too cowardly to call people out by name.

 

Thank you for justifying my lack of respect. Let's just keep it amicable. 

 

 

 

 

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@mike - Thanks, I will be sure to take you up on that. I may be down there this Summer as I pass through to the Philippines. 

 

I don't really like going through Beijing (unless the pricing persuades me), so that is quite the possbility. 

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I'll tell you what really gives me the irrits...just when you need 

popcorn that's the genuine article, there isn't any!

 

Umm...a contribution.  I'm not an ambitious person...that is, in respect to money and power.

Enough is enough for me.  Honestly.  So, making a living and having a free and easy lifestyle is right up my alley.  Teaching English in China provides just such this opportunity.

Alas, the tradeoff is living in a filthy, backward and racist environment where there's nothing to do other than love family and beer.  And work, such as it is.

But this just makes the annual month or so back home all the more a time to cherish.

 

 

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Point taken. Actually the "condescending gloaters" might save that for other forums. There is one called Wall Street Oasis that might be more suitable for such "ambitious" types. Lots of accomplished yet modest people on that or similar forums, and maybe it'd help chop your egos down to size.

expatlife26:

sometimes you might mistake pride over meaningful life/career progress for condescending gloating.

 

china can be an ok place to take it easy...though I would imagine Thailand, Indonesia or the Philippines to be better for that. But not everybody just wants to take it easy, that life isn't for everyone.

 

If you're happy with it...be happy for others who succeed at building something else. If you aren't happy with it, figure out what you have to do to get where you want to be.

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Well as sinobear noted there is a line between healthy pride and becoming full of oneself and condescending.

I remember well a fellow from my uni days, he came from a wealthy/powerful old family and had that clear "type A" or "executive" personality, ambitions, etc., and was talented (paid off 4 years tuition working on side as a 18-year-old freshman), but managed to remain down-to-earth and yet larger-than-life at once. That's respectable, and another one that comes to mind is comp. sci. professor I had, a noted leader in the field and had a presumably very a well-paid Friday consulting gig with Microsoft, but also had the down-to-earth-ness that I've come to associate with genuine brilliance. So it's possible to be "successful" and not let it go to one's head.

As Kurt Vonnegut said, "we're here to fart around, don't let anyone tell you otherwise."

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@RobK "I know people like you, you think that because you are smart that makes you superior to others. Maybe you fancy yourself as being an intellectual and try to belittle those that hold some sort of a threat to your ideology of life?"

 

Agree with your assessment. I talked about that a little bit in my blogs; that bored, marginalized smart people aren't the best to hang around with.

 

There's a big difference between being smart and being talented. Smart is something you can be, talented is something you can do. It's why a structural engineer gets a lot of respect and people will readily defer to their intelligence and expertise, while an opinionated hipster (even one with a 150 IQ) who works at a coffee shop can come off as undeservedly smug even for saying the EXACT SAME THING as the engineer.

 

The world isn't fair, on some level people are judged by the rarity of their accomplishments because we don't live in a vacuum. Smart only counts if you do something special with it, otherwise you're just the jerk at the coffee shop babbling about some obscure fact that anyone could have learned.

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Narcissism and being an ass use to be traits to be ashamed of and not proudly proclaimed from the hills. It is too bad that some people can’t be successful and humble as well. Times they are a changin I guess. As for myself I do well enough but I refuse to let it go to my head, because those who become too full of themselves will always be brought to heel. It is a law of the universe. 

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Most of your points are true, except the last one. Thats usually wishful thinking from the people looking up.  But the fact is, i wasnt intending on offending anyone except the OP. Of course in a public forum with generalizations people are going to take offence. And i knew that.  He created this embarrassing post to attack me, and i, having too much time on my hands replied back with what I had in my arsenal to make him look and feel like a tit as he did too me. Some people took offense to what he said ( again, generalizations) and others took offense to what I said. Its much less braggery than 2 guys arguing and dick waving. 

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Sorry, I'm fucking nuts. I'll try to stop.

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A questionnaire!  Assume! 

 

Who, and what are you?

 I am Frank, I am an America

 Do you really know yourself?

Ya, I rock

 Are you doing what you're doing on your own merit or are you a boot-licking sycophant?

Pretty sure own merit. 

Do you live in an ivory tower and look down on others or can you understand the circumstances, limitations and motivations that bring others here (China and the forums), keep them here, and empathize with them?

I am pretty sure I don't.  I am on the 13th floor, got a good view of the pool.

Do you understand that your outlook and experiences are not the same as others?

I don't use outlook, I use gmail.  Not the same experiences as others.

Do you believe that others have their right to their opinions and, unless they're an obvious troll, they're entitled to post them without disparagement?

I think everyone has the right to free speech, and everyone has the right to criticize others speech.  And has the right to be a troll.  What is it with this guy and trolls?  

It has been my experience in China (15 years) that expats come here to escape the drudgery of a 40+ hour workweek and "paying lip-service to the 'man.'" Do you condone becoming another drone and perpetuating the very practices that you railed against and reviled in your home country?

Yes, I mean no, I mean what is he saying anyway?  I think it is fun to vent once in awhile.    

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hahahaha gmail haha genius!

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for some of you knob jockeys... if you dont like it in china....FUCK OFF out of there and stop whinging about the place fuckin hippacrits

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This is what I miss, a Chinese racist yelling Get out of China, when the question really had nothing to do with China. Canada takes in 250,000 people each year, many end up living on social assistance, do Canadians point, stare and whisper at immigrants, do they yell get out of my country? How many immigrants does China take in each year? I can't find any statistics.I had  Chinese girl yell ''Get out of China'' at me once, after she tried to tea scam me, then just demanded money for nothing. I told her what she could do. Why do so many Chinese want out of China?

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@Ted - You are right Canadians don't... but we damn well should because many go well out of their to try and PUSH their culture on others and collect welfare checks to send home. 

 

Guys like mark14 here have severe mental problems that nothing sort of a lobotomy can fix. 

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LAOWAI, GET THE FUCK OUT OF CHINA !!!

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I agree, sorry, but I really think immigration levels are too high and truthfully don't see multiculturalism as a good thing. The rest of the world wars over religion and ethnics, so lets bring a bit of everything home. Groups are pushing for Islamic laws in Canada etc and there is too much reverse discrimination. I'm just waiting for the day I have to wall up my 4 acres.

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@ beautiful soup your the only drone here mr know it all... you should team up with sorrel you would make a great pair

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the problem with china is , there are to many yanks

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no robk i dont have mental issues... i say it like it is they call it freedom of speech

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Wow.. wild ranting all around. At first I shared the 'Colbert sentiment' and wanted to enjoy the schadenfreude. But it's hardly entertaining. I rarely say "too long - didn't read" but this is an exception.

Too wordy by far, and none of it it relevant to anyone but yourselves. You both lose in terms of respectability. All because you're both better at picking fights than you are at settling them.

If I had to pick a side, I'd go with Sinobear. I know mike's tone of discourse, so I imagine he's the aggressor, and that would make Sinobear the defender. But it's still bad form on both sides to bite down so deeply in people's personal sitiation. Bad dogs! Heel!

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But coineineagh, he started it! He did!

Anyhoo, I was trollin'! Hee hee hee.

From above: "Nah, this is all in good fun....is an easy target...now a true sociopath is a challenge!" I was bored, I had time while my kids were watching a movie ('Despicable Me' for the 200th time).

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lol, the only comment in this thread I can appreciate!  Well done.

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indecision 

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Well, bugger me!  Only 24 upvotes for the good Dr M.

Seems to me the reason he only received a paltry 24 upvotes by May 4th is that the show kinda petered out.

Disappointing really, esp after start an explosive beginning.

I guess, Doc, given the high expectations of 'Popcorn Man', that makes you a loser.

Bad luck.

 

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