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Q: Who has the greatest paid commentator army in the world?

The Wu Mao's or the Putinbots?

 

I know that wumao's are legendary but I think the Putinbots put them to shame now.

Read any story about Russia and certain current events and you will see the Guardian comment board light up with an onslaught of Putinbots.

 

I think China is waning in it's efforts of covert opinion massaging and Russia has taken over as top dog.  All papers from North America to Europe...it's all the same...anti-American Russian apologists abound.

 

Now the North Korean bots are quite hillarious...so over the top ridiculous you laugh your ass off.

 

So what do you think?  Who's the best?

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E-china has some real contenders

the funny thing about all of them (Russian ,Chinese, IS....... )  is they are outed

as dick heads by the same internet that they post their crap on indecision

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I don't think Putin has 2 million people paid to sit and defend his asinine crap. 

Lord_hanson:

Check out Russia today, he has a lot of posters

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Have you considered a second that a growing number of people might be genuinely tired of the US crap and will not buy anymore the demonization of Putin and Russia, who by the way would not be even close to matching America in terms of murder and misery brought to the world even if he pulled the trigger on a person and a kitten at every minute for the rest of his life?

 

Have you?

 

Now about the wumao army. They're more of a sad entertainment.

Lord_hanson:

Why are you comparing 1 person with 1 country? Personally I think Putin is a nasty piece of work. He used to be in the KGB, what do you think he used to do to political activists back in the day of the Soviet Union, tickle them? Russia has caused plenty of misery and suffering. Both the US and Russia have but the difference is that the US has also done a lot of good for the world. I can safely say that Russia has not.

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icnif77:

@Lord: read comments about P. on US articles about P. I'll dig some.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-19/meanwhile-what-really-taking-place-behind-second-us-russian-cold-war

See comments of the US traders/posters on the bottom.

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RiriRiri:

I'm comparing with the US because the biggest providers and buyers of the anti-Putin propaganda market usually comes from there. We could talk about the EU too, but since they're just following Washington's orders, that's kind of the same thing.

Putin might be full of shit, but at least I believe the day he'll come and try to steal my land, he'll be manly and decent enough to tell me he does it for his interest and his country's, as opposed to have a smily clown in a suit tell me about democracy and good vs evil fairytales bullshit.
You can talk with someone who's not delusionnal about his shit, but you can't talk with morons who are absolutely convinced they're doing you a favor by dropping bombs in your yard.
But yeah, sure, the US did a lot of "good" on TV or something.

On the communication game, all Russia has to do is repost whatever Jen Psaki says on a good day. Why bother sponsoring commentors.

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Lord_hanson:

yeah good old macho man Putin. Really manly of him picking on the little guys. About him being man enough to admit what he is doing, have you not heard about the crisis in Ukraine? He doesn't seem very open about the involvement of Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine. In Crimea he constantly denied any Russian troops were there. After he said "of course Russian soldiers were involved.". Russia lies every day about Ukraine why would you even say he would be honest and say what he is doing?

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RiriRiri:

Oh yeah, who triggered this shitstorm no one wanted to begin with by the way?

 

Was it Putin's handpick, or rather that dickhead Georges Soros, master in social manipulation.

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thedude:

Oh RinRin...your right wing fascist pro Putin rant has solidified my question in spades.

 

America is not perfect by any stretch...but comparing the new Stalin to the US is laughable.

 

Maybe the US was better at covering up covert operations in the past....the asinine thing is that Russia just lies and denies and hope we all fall for it.

 

Putin is leading Russia down the same road that bankrupted the USSR.

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RiriRiri:

Right wing fascist. Oh, just that.

You could have at least put Nazi or Hitler somewhere, come on it never gets old.

 

Now, please, lies and denies about what? Please be specific, I guarantee we are going to have a lot of fun here. Especially if you would like to continue on the comparison with the US. The list is just endless.

 

But ultimately this just proves how oblivious you are of any diverging opinion. I mean, whoever doesn't kiss the ass of America MUST be paid not to, right. Or it just can't make sense obviously.

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thedude:

Um OK.

Crimea and the proxy war in Eastern Ukraine....only for the sole purpose of wreaking havoc in an attempt to regain their vassal state to serve them once again?

Propping up and arming of the worst regimes on the planet.(Syria??)

Jailing anyone who questions Putin's dictatorial power.

Controlling the media to stir up unwarranted nationalism based on lies (let's talk about MH17...or do you wish to dismiss this with the usual cover up facades?)

The US is no angel but for every mistake they have made in the past...they have made up for in spades with the good things they do across the planet that don't get the media attention that the disaster in Iraq gets.  What good has Russia EVER done for humanity or the world?????

The main strategy of putinbots is to deflect...not answer and simply respond with....but the USA does..........

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bill8899:

Demonisation of Putin? He has been invading Ukraine and killing Ukranians for at least eight months.

You can't demonise a Demon. 

How biased can you be? Or stupid.

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Born-Again Christians ? Fundamentalist Muslims ? Those guys have a lot of media attention, they manage to make ideas proven wrong during the Renaissance fashionable again, etc.

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Probably Chinese, because huge number of Internet users.

 

Here's my favorite/the most 'we don't do that in democracy' country in the world:

 

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/03/07/nsa-advice-columnist-serio...

 

 

When I read articles about P. and Russia, I never ever miss comments.

icnif77:

ZeroHedge, US Stock Exchange Market website on P.:

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/search/apachesolr_search/

 

Don't forget to look at comments of (US) readers on the bottom of each link on P..

Internet is full of P.'s statements today.

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icnif77:

Reason why Internet is full of P. this week:

 

http://rt.com/news/206943-putin-ambassador-credentials-unveiling/

 

We are ready for practical cooperation with our American partners concerning a wide range of issues under the principles of mutually understanding each other, without interfering in each other’s internal affairs,” Putin said at a ceremony at the Kremlin, where he accepted the credentials of 15 new ambassadors to the country, including US Ambassador John Tefft.

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I literally noticed this just the other day.  I was clicking through articles on Foreign Policy mainly reading China related topics, but there were a few about Russia as well.  One click and I saw a lot of the so called Putin bots that you speak of.  Having been aware of  the existence of the Wu Mao Dang, it was easy to realize that this was the Russian equivalent at work. 

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More to the point, which country has the most poweful paid mouth pieces ?

Straight away, I can think of Fox news. Someone pays for them to broadcast a particular political agenda.

And look at the poltical party system in the UK. Loads of examples of people being elevated to the House of Lords after making substantial donations to political parties.

Lord_hanson:

Labour have said they will get rid of the house of lords and replace it with a senate. I don't think the house of commons has such power but if they did it would go a long way in the battle against corruption.

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ScotsAlan:

lol Lord H. I cringe everytime I hear the name Lord Kinnock. Now, there is a family who has done well from UK political Guanxi.

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Lord_hanson:

I agree that it will never happen though, the house of lords is so the rich are still in power.

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thedude:

Fox news creams itself every night hoping they can be the mouthpiece of a great Republican Fascist power soon....let us hope that as stupid as the vast majority of Americans are...they will see through the fear mongering and actually vote for those that will actually improve their lives.

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ScotsAlan:

Democracy.....bahhhh. Its Murdoch that decides who the leaders of the free world are...

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Lord_hanson:

oh, don't get me started on Murdoch, I hate the guy. Remember how frail he was during the News of the World investigation. I would kill him if I got the chance. He is one of the worst people last/this century has suffered.

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Murdoch has never been elected to Government. Yet he decides who will be in power.

But....his ex wife Wendi used her Chinese skills to get a few hundred million out of him.

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Dunno about Putinbots. A lot of conservative/republicans in the U.S. REALLY like Putin, because he has balls and Obama is a neutered dog.

 

And I'd say the greatest wumao commentators come from the National Security Agency and the GCHQ. Both governments have had paid shills for far longer than the CCP,  and they're always posting pro-American stuff.

 

They're all over reddit in particular. I'm not sure how I feel about that; we've been ridiculing wumaos so often and for so long, but it turns out that the U.S., AUS, U.K, Canadian, and NZ governments are doing the same thing. It's pretty pathetic. All wumaos are retarded, no matter which government they're working for.

ScotsAlan:

Yup. The worst ones are the ones that do it free. They dont even know they are doing it...

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Hulk:

I disagree about "doing it for free." I am very supportive of my country, but I often verbally assail our government, which is a heinous piece of shit that is no better than the CCP on many levels.

 

Governments are usually the problem here. Not the people, not the countries. I know a lot of Chinese who love their country, but hate the CCP.  Bottom line is, you can be patriotic without supporting the evil, disgusting actions of your government.

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bill8899:

That's the funny thing about conservatives. Now they sound like Communists. I love to listen to them spouting off, knowing they're gaining friends in Russia. 

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Lord_hanson:

Your line about balls reminds me of team America. "You have balls, I like balls." & "I love your balls!"

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Hulk:

Ow! My balls!

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