Hello Jungle life:

It's fine. At least for me. China deserves to be blamed because China could have done better than this. 

1) Chinese government and officials should take a major responsibility of this blame. It's their absence from duty and greed of ill-gotten money that made today's environment so bad. If they had fulfilled their duty and been strict with the enforcement of rules of environment protections, invested more in clean energy and factories instead of the real estate bubbles, I believe most major pollution wouldn't have happened.

2) Many Chinese people should take the blame as well. They are not enough aware of the importance of environmental protection. When they start a small factory , all they care about is how to get rich regardless of how much it pollutes.  In daily life the used batteries with heavy metals should have been collected at least by themselves.  But I think many Chinese just throw them in soil which causes massive dangerous pollution to the soil, the crops, and underground water.

Both Chinese officials and Chinese people should have done better. So if being blamed by foreign countries could help them improve, the blame is worth to be taken.

I also want to say, that Chinese people are not American people's or European people's enemies.  It's the Western multi-national cooperations that moved their factories to China and other cheap labor countries, for the sake of exploiting more. It resulted in today's western people's unemployment but it's not Chinese people's fault,not in my opinion.

Blaming China's demographic policy is another thing. But if you condemn one child policy and blame Chinese big population at the same time, really, what do you want?

While some westerners condemn China that Chinese should be more grateful because it's the WEST that gave Chinese the chance to develop their manufacture industry,they should also realize that it's their greedy enterprises that <>came here for only one single purpose: to earn more.

It outrages me that the former colonist countries constrain China today and portrait themselves as legitimate. I'm not saying China or international community shouldn't be based on rules of laws. It's a great idea and probably would help China and our world get a lot better. I'm just saying that, the laws are passed by lawmakers, and lawmakers are people, and people can be greedy and selfish when they make law! How could it be justified, that a group of wolves making laws for sheep members?

Of course I hope the big companies, for example Apple, could give more to the poor diligent Chinese labors. They work 70~80 hours a week, in poisonous working condition, having one or two days off per month, and only get paid 2000~3000 Yuan a month.  Not even enough to buy an iPhone. While at the same time, the super rich CEOs and big shareholders take away more than 50% of the profits, buying sailing yacht that worth a billion $$$.I hope they would distribute more profit to Chinese labors and plants, to improve their life level and reduce pollution. But I'm afraid it's just a bubble dream.

Who are western people's real enemies? What is the original reason that caused their unemployment? I hope people in the west can have a good think about it, and don't put that much pressure on Chinese people instead of Chinese rich officials and greedy merchants, the latter of which are now immigrating to your country and getting well treated by your service, just because they got some guilty money in China.

Now you are right that companies do decide to bring their companies here for manufacturing and all. However, there is one important thing that you left out or forgot. You forgot to mention how the companies themselves make products that at times won't last. So although it is cheaper to make in China it's not particularly the best quality. 

Besides, this the pollution could also mean different things. I've heard that some people were taken advantage of when they decided to use the manufacturers here. If there was nothing patented on the item a lot of the times the person would make one of their own and call it their own company. 

That's happened before. I saw an episode of Shark Tank. A lady made a product decided it would be cheaper to make in China and her distributor/manufacturer decided to make the same product and profit off of her idea. 

It works both ways in all actuality. If the companies want to make their factories here China could simply deny them by having the legitimate excuse of saying that their country is already polluted we do not need any more factories and flat out deny them of making any factories that would have left the place more polluted then it already is. 

  It's a good point. Got sod all to add to it because I don't really give a shit, but it's a good point.

China can't say 'no'? China cannot implement some environmental protection? Blame China. 

Liao Xuegang, Director of the Anhui Provincial Environmental Protection Authority, was reported as saying this a few days ago.

www.chinadialogue.net/blog/5801-Official-blames-foreigners-for-China-s-pollution/en

It's been doing the rounds on China Weibo, and most Chinese netizens reject Liao's claims. Chinese environmental groups also reject it.

For 30 years, the Chinese government have known about the causes and effects of pollution, and ignored it. Now, when they realise that the problem is beyond their capacity to deal with, they seek to blame everybody else.

This reminds me... I'm a Native American Indian, and I spent the majority of my life living on a Reservation. Do you want to know what 95% of the population does? They sit around collecting welfare, talking about how the "white man" is always keeping them down when whitey was the only reason these lazy bums still have food on their table. They also sit around drinking and doing drugs... and it's all whitey's fault.

This is China, the land of BLAME WHITEY. It's like a large-scale indian Reservation on crack. Even the smallest cities without factories are heavily polluted compared to the largest American cities which have more vehicles, and more everything else.

DOWN WITH WHITEY!!!!!!!

It's not the west's fault that Chinese vehicles have basically no emission requirements, and constantly let out horrific amounts of black smoke in favor of rapid development. It's not the west's fault that China has pursued rapid economic growth and money at the expense of everything else.

It's the Chinese people's fault for not rising up and doing something about it. It's the Chinese people's fault for pursuing money at the cost of everything else, and not doing more to protect their environment. It's China's fault for worshiping money. It's the Chinese people's fault for not installing the necessary equipment to curb emissions since they'd rather save money.

Seriously, I have to tell Chinese people to stop pucking (thanks crimo) worshiping money quite often. This is why "Made in China" is crap quality: they don't care about safety or anything, they only care about making money at all costs. If it would cost them money by putting in a few things to protect others, but it rose the cost of the item by a few RMB, they'll opt to save the few RMB and let everyone die from their poisonous crap.

You have to realize this is a country that still blames Japan for everything. If someone makes a mistake here, they are called a "temporary worker," and let go, even if they had been working there for several years. They blame everyone except themselves. It's all "me, me, me," and "me." Nobody cares about responsibility here... that's why little kids keep getting ran over multiple times, why people are being dragged to death by cars, etc. They just pin the blame on everyone else. No responsibility. All blame whitey.

This is a country where the worst mass murderer (in terms of body count) in human history, who also happened to be a disgusting pedophile, is a glorified hero, whereas people who have done far, far less damage than him (Japan) are considered the devil incarnate. Yeah, it's the west's fault... not.

Because, it is their own fault. Their country,  their rules. If they let us run roughshod over them (which we dont!) then they only have themselves to blame.

Who sets and enforces environmental laws and regulations in China?  I know I tend to oversimplify things....but come on....

Yeah, yeah. I totally remember when we forced China to start industrializing. It had nothing to do with the communist party becoming a maffia of corrupt pricks using politics in the worst way to to stay in power over a country of 1.3 billion people. All those guys had no choice but to murder dissidents, ignore regulations and just do whatever they wanted simply because they could. Yup...had nothing to do with them.... it was all our fault. 

Go away. 

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did american workers let politicians develope factories in china at the expense of american workers and the workers did not say anything as their income fell because they had cheaper shoes, tv, computers , etc                        guilty as charged

did chinese workers let their government run roughshod over their land, water and environment to show the world they can be rich also at the cost of their values and culture

                                                                               guilty as charged

did both countries go to  the the dance,  like a couple dancing at a club or did one rape the other and drag them to the floor

did one country lower their standard of living for another in the hopes of a more peaceful world and did it work                                              jury still out

was this a grand scheme, because two democracies have never had a war with one another,  and the middle class in china could lead to democracy, will the grand scheme work                                                                        jury  still out

did the workers of both countries get screwed       guilty as charged

I am completely with Hulk on this. They are just whining because they want to have their cake and eat it. 

If any of the countries that are in deep shit because of the financial crises made a government level decision to create jobs at the expense of the environment, you would not blame those who bought the outcome of the jobs. Say Spain allowed some heavily polluting industries, to generate income for the country, you would not go an point at little Jimmy who bought the toy from those factories would you.

If I buy a bottle of Russian vodka, get drunk and piss myself in my sleep, I do not go know on Putin's door to bitch about my own inability to take care of basic cleanliness. 

I understand your points, but I still think there needs to be more blame on the companies that are choosing to have things manufactured in China to make more profit but knowing that the factory is making the stuff in a more unfriendly way to the environment. They are the ones making the choice, they are the ones creating who are saying, ''screw the environment, let's make it in China and save money.''

Let me put this another way. It is like having a house and a family and therefore garbage that needs to be taken out all the time. YOu have 2 companies to choose from who will do this for you. 1 company will take all your trash and refuse, sort it out, recycle what can be recycled, and the rest disposed of in the proper place. they charge $1000 a month. '2' company will pick up your trash more frequently, and even anytime you call them they will come asap to pick it up, (they really treat you good), but they dont sort the trash, and just throw it all away in the nearby lake, or out in the forest because it is quicker and easier do it this way, but only charge $10 a month.

Now you the customer are totally aware of how company 2 disposes of your trash, Who will you choose??? And if you choose company 2, like the many companies, you are to blame in part. In my opinion.

And just so you know, almost every car, heavy- equipment, machine, toy company, etc are having things made in China, at least some of the parts.

I am not disagreeing with your statements, I am just saying, hey, there are some other people to blame here, and they aren't Chinese, and they are as greedy as shit.

As is usually the case, there are many culprits in this problem.  Western nations have shown a lack of responsibility in the caretaking of the world's resources.  Are we really to believe that this is only China's problem?  As if their pollution problems don't effect everyone else?  The truth of the matter is, China's environmental problems are the world's  problem.  China's government's lack of resolve to protect the environment was surely encouraged by the West (at the very least tacitly) because western corporations cared about profits more than the damage being done.

The big companies looked the other way while giving money and tech to China to build it's industrial monster.  Like a drug dealer supplying to it's addicted customers, western nations have played a key role in perpetuating China's pollution.  There is greediness on all sides of this issue and plenty of blame to go around.  Sure, China is negligent and weak.  But the West has taken their fair advantage of the situation and the whole earth is suffering for it.