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Q: Why are you all so racist and paranoid?

Every second question is negative commentary about surrounding environments or activities.. 
Often people seem to think they are the authority on morals and ethics on this forum. I am hoping that everyone here realizes it's just your opinion... Generalization and the weird paranoia going on here is crazy. 

You all talk about 'wu mao's' but you are all literally the opposite and this website is a dump. 
You're all also the reason many Chinese think foreigners are stupid because most of you are. It's embarrassing. 

I have a strong feeling many of you are the unpopular ones in your own country and escape here to validate yourselves. Quite a spectacle really. In my city there is around 50 foreign people. Out of that there seems to be about 6 'normal' ones. Why does China attract such shit. 

Cya never and enjoy being loser racists. 

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Timtimtim... 

 

You have some valid points. You truly do... but a lot of the criticism going on is not PARANOIA

 

It just an opinion based on someone that has gone through certain experiences. 

 

China... however a beautiful place... is certainly NOT friendly towards foreigners. 

 

I only need to point to ONE example. 

 

The foreign/Chinese marriage certificate. 

 

You are allowed to live in China but not work legally to provide for your family. 

 

WHAT?!

 

In any rationalized mind, that would be a complete ridiculous regulation. Could it feed the thought of "paranoia", some might agree that it would? 

 

 

 

Timtimtim:

Yeah, you're right we should hate that. Although the regular people of this country usually also find it ridiculous. I'm all for complaining about the government. They suck.

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What's the opposite of a wu mao? crying

 

Would that be someone who isn't just a modern version of the old times eunuch?

Dude, if you don't like the website, just leave. It's not like you're paid or forced to be here is it? Or, are you...

retiredinchina:

Many Chinese people think foreigners are stupid. OK, fine.

 

next question

 

Why should I care about that? Why would I want to care enough to change that?

Finally, if it changed, what benefit would a foreigner receive from this great evolution of change?

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retiredinchina,  it is a compliment for many mainlanders and other low lives scattering around this planet to consider the highly evolved "stupid", because this is the same as the devil laughing at angels for not knowing how dark and filthy his mind is in this realm of polarity. 

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In my time here, small city, in Guangdong.(4 years) I have met about 10-12 native english speakers. they come and go... language is the big issue I suspect... little english here. 

I that time I have felt very very little racism or contempt or anything negative from the locals. I am always greeted with respect and I certainly respect the whole population here.

 

They are fine people with zero resentment to me (white guy) and just plain decent folks ...  no problem.

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Waaah...

I'm taking my toys and going home. And you're NOT coming to my party.

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I kind of agree with BHGAL.

 

Maybe we are in the same city south of Gz on the west side of Pearl River. It is pretty civilised here with a rare experience of coming across a wanker once in a while. They are usually not from around here.

 

 

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Don't you know there are Chinese living all over the entire Asia Pacific region? 

 

Which user on this website have you seen making negative comments against Chinese living in Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand .....etc., in other words the entire Chinese race?

 

Why are you so ignorant? 

Englteachted:

EXACTLY MY FUCKING POINT!!! THIS IS NOT A A CRITIQUE ON A RACE!!!!!! Mainlanders are uneducated!!! Thoroughly uneducated.

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A famous Chinese idiom from a well known philosopher among the Chinese, Chuang-tzu's (莊子, 369BC - around 286BC)'s writings ---- Frogs in a Well (井底之蛙) describes PRC Mainlanders as a group to the tee. The first two characters are "well" & "bottom", last character being frog. There are plenty of toxic frogs in this toxic well........ This well isn't very well. :)

 

Indeed most Mainlanders are thoroughly uneducated. To use the above idiom as an example below is something obviously written by a non PRC Chinese (one can say, authentic Chinese) as the characters used are different; far more complete.  Try ask Mainlanders the metaphorical meaning of "well" (井 - the character that looks like a grid) and see how many know? The answer is in the quoted passage, it also means trap in ancient days. Oh yes, ancient Chinese dating back to 286BC  know ignorance is a trap!

 

[The names the frog of the bottom of the well (井底之蛙) and glancing at the sky from the bottom of the well (坐井觀天) were not original titles by Chuang-tzu. The philosopher has given the fable no title. Such titles have been made up by others. In fact, the common interpretation of a frog in a well is incorrect. The word 井 had meant 'trap' back then.]

 

https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Chinese_Stories/The_frog_of_the_well

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Timtimtim:

You're the ignorant one in this case. You search for negative news and you get it. Good for you. This positive news actually far outweighs the negative you ignorant hater.

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timtimtim, did viki and uniqlo turn you down for a date, relax, there are 700 million more females here you can talk to easily. Environment and activities (I think that was your topic sentence) probably would not be in the same word group for vocabulary as racism and paranoia, maybe I'm wrong, I don't teach or train anymore.

retiredinchina:

Your second sentence morals and ethics, now that is a tough one. If your a hard working Chinese peasant that lives in a remote mountain village and never seen a foreigner and your morals are good, would you be a racists if you fear outsiders and don't want them living around your neighborhood. Can you be a racists by default for living in an isolated klan environment?

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timtim, u should had been a member on ECC earlier like 9 months or a year ago Here on this site what u percieve going on it was much worse than now. Compared to then what u read hear on this site is mild

retiredinchina:

cub, it is amazing how every Chinese person thinks that foreigners will become China loving zealots like themselves by virtue of having an osmosis habitat awakening because we have had the glorious privilege to be here and live around them. They don't understand that most of us had a greater opinion of them before we got here and lost it after seeing the day to day reality of living here slap us across the face.

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retired, although i dont live in china or been there [yet] i just read the comments/posts and can come up with my own conclusions then learn and prepare when i do visit china.

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earthizen:

When are you going to china, 2999?

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cub:

Earthizen, set up a lottery see who guesses the best date i get there ok? i know u are getting worrying lines when i get there so relax take it easy thx

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earthizen:

I see no point betting on or worrying about you, and anyone who just keep talking but has no experience on what they are talking about, cub. 

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Eartthizen,obviously u dont have much patience or faith in people Society is used to being a microwave society with instant relationships that should take time to develop so they will last a life time. Experience as in knowing something knowing it all still dont equate to knowing about everything in life no matter how many PHDs u may have. Its a big world out there Things will always work out if u have the patience

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Time for me is too precious to be wasted on such people.

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Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that people aren't out to get me. 

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You keep changing accounts and doing the same crap. You are clearly Chinese posing as an expat. 

Try again under a different account and I'll sniff you out again because you're a pathetic loser.

Timtimtim:

I have one account. I'm surprised you can smell anything with all the shot coming our of your mouth. Kudos.

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You know how you can pin point a troll when users rip other countries including their own home countries a troll never says 'why do you hate X country?' But if you point out a clear and obvious and undeniable flaw in China and boom you are racist and hate China, They even ignore the positive observations you make about China. 

 

You twats need a new fucking playbook.

retiredinchina:

His question near the end of his rant, "why does China attract such shit", says more about China than he probably wants to know and basically puts the blame on China, but perhaps his English training does not comprehend what he inferred.

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Toilets tend to do that. HA!

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yeah, just follow where all the flies hang around

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"Why does China attract such shit. " -you

 Maybe the foreigners are the flies, and China is actually the shitpile. something to ponder.

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Timtimtim... 

 

You have some valid points. You truly do... but a lot of the criticism going on is not PARANOIA

 

It just an opinion based on someone that has gone through certain experiences. 

 

China... however a beautiful place... is certainly NOT friendly towards foreigners. 

 

I only need to point to ONE example. 

 

The foreign/Chinese marriage certificate. 

 

You are allowed to live in China but not work legally to provide for your family. 

 

WHAT?!

 

In any rationalized mind, that would be a complete ridiculous regulation. Could it feed the thought of "paranoia", some might agree that it would? 

 

 

 

Timtimtim:

Yeah, you're right we should hate that. Although the regular people of this country usually also find it ridiculous. I'm all for complaining about the government. They suck.

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Yes...most foreigners I have met in China are deeply troubled people.

But contrary to your opinion...not all choose to work here.

I was sent...hated it at first but learned to adapt.

What does it say about China that it predominantly attracts the lowest denominators of our respective cultures?  I suspect it's the easy girls and the artificial ego boost of having a 4" dick instead of a 3" dick....regardless of the oppressive government and low wages.

Anyone that moves to China and works for a Chinese company either has balls of steel or they are idiots star crossed by promises of paid daily sex from girls who despise them apart from their money.

seansarto:

Yeah..where are all the Syrians, dude?..Oh wait..They don't have college diplomas...Maybe you should build china yer own Statue of Liberty if yer so convinced that china is so generous....and by the way what is yer obvious fixation with genitalia as a criteria between success and failure in china..but then again, in yer own words, you already explained that..You have a problem being a man because you see a difference between "balls of steel" and "daily sex with women who despise them"...

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Touched a nerve did I?

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I don't often come on this forum these days but I will make a comeback for this one.

 

The people that usually defend China or have a sinophile outlook have a tendency to describe those who make criticisms of China or Chinese people as racists. Being a racist is defined as having a dislike for people based on their country of birth or ethnic background. That is very different from criticising people based on their actions or behaviour.

 

I make criticisms of Chinese people based on things that I see or experience. I do not dislike them because they were born Chinese.

 

For example, indiscriminate dumping of household waste in the street, constant cheating and distortion, constant unnecessary noise, antisocial behaviour, having idiots driving cars behind me on pedestrian walkways with hand on horn trying to shift me out of the way, going into the toilets in the non smoking section of a local five star hotel and finding the floor covered in urine with cigarette ends floating in it, and so on.

 

None of these are racist issues. I would be just as critical if people from my own country acted in this manner but then it wouldn't be classed as racism, would it? 

Timtimtim:

Criticism and generalizations are different just fyi. Constant degrading of people day in and day out is not criticism. I complain about things to. I complain about things in my country. There's a clear difference and people who defend this attitude, they are usually anti-social like you like to claim. So go ahead and come back for your ten thousand times regurgitated post that is oh so meaningful. You all keep reaffirming your stance until you're super comfortable but it's clear where the intent is. Ridiculous people.

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So TimTimTim,

 

Is it your belief that Chinese, no scrub that ALL people, that emigrate to foreign countries for work, study, family & personal reasons etc., never criticise (or make slanderous generalisations as you prefer to call them) about aspects of life in that country? 

 

I have many Chinese friends, even more Chinese acquaintances, who regularly criticize aspects of life in other countries. Some of them have been to the country they criticize, some of them have never stepped outside China. Do I get offended by their comments? Not in the least.

 

Some of the criticisms are warranted, others are nothing more than ridiculous regurgitated stereotypes that bear no resemblance to the truth. Does that make them racists?

 

Maybe you're the problem TimTimTim, or people of your ilk. You come across as an apologist for behavioural standards that would not be acceptable in any civilized countries.

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People act like idiots and I call them out and I'm the unfavorable one. I think you need to socialize more. Also don't detract from the main point of me having a problem with the forum population. All this shit talk about societies conventions. Nice tangent fool.

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You can justify it however you want, brush it this way brush it that way. It's clear to anyone without jaded eyes to see the real story to be told.

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"Also don't detract from the main point of me having a problem with the forum population".

 

I have no intentions whatsoever of detracting from this point. That is your own, personal feeling towards others and you are perfectly entitled to it.

 

I can only speak in general terms about what I see and what I experience. If that makes me a "fool" then so be it.

 

As for your comment about socializing, I am self employed in a role that requires me to meet with Chinese nationals in many different situations and locations. If anything, my life is "too full" of socializing, if that is possible. I also live on a housing estate where I am literally the only foreign national. Everyone knows me and I have never experienced resentment from any of the neighbours. On the contrary, they are very welcoming and curious.

 

None of that, however, justifies some of the not so pleasant aspects of China. I can and should feel that I am able to criticise certain aspects of life here without being referred to as a racist and/or a fool.

 

 

 

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Criticism is not racism.
One could choose to use criticism to better themselves or one could spend all day pointing fingers, making excuses, and blaming others.

Timtimtim:

Criticism based on different beliefs in the form of slander or generalizations. This will really better you as a person. Do go on.

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Give me an example of these different beliefs. Chinese believe it is wrong to shit on the street be they do it constantly even at the damn bus stop they'll pull their kids pants down and take a shit. Chinese believe sneaking photos of people is wrong but they constantly harass foreigners.... so where are these different beliefs?

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You can find Chinese people who would let their child squat and you could find Chinese people who wouldn't take photos. Keep generalizing. You look great. You biased idiot. I'm my country I could find people who hated Americans for being fat but they are idiots, just like you.

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Do you have to be so blatantly biased. You're killing me. You thought you just had a great reply but it's actually so stupid. How do you even.

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People shitting in the streets and lying about pollution levels while using different chemicals to fool sensors are but two among thousands of uncivilized behavior tendencies China exhibits.
Please name other countries that do this that AREN'T 3rd world countries.

The point is, your economy is doing well enough to support funding education about pollution and to afford diapers.INSTEAD your country spends that money on propaganda about 'racist foreigners' and formulating said chemicals.
If your people still refuse to change, that is their fault.

The world, in turn, will criticize the people who behave in this way.
As I said before, it's not racism, it's criticism. Your people refuse to accept criticism and change their disgusting habits. INSTEAD your excuse is 'you're racist'! while the REST of the WORLD is not doing these things. Are you telling me the WHOLE WORLD is racist against just Chinese??


Do you see U.S. citizens screaming "racism!" when other countries point out their people are fat and unhealthy? Nope.

 

You think everything you say is a God-send, but in reality everyone is just looking at you like you're retarded.
It's not your fault, of course....There are millions of others like you in the Mainland that 没教养。

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