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Sign up with Google Sign up with FacebookQ: why chinese dont take indian teacher in their schools as english teacher?
11 years 46 weeks ago in Teaching & Learning - China
I agree that it's mostly to do with skin colour unfortunately.
But as other's have said, there is also a lot of politics involved. If the host country are unhappy with your country, they make it harder for you as an individual. French people have a hard time getting a visa for China, for reasons I will not mention here.
Every time I read of my country tightening their immigration policies, I feel dismayed. because these things are reciprocated.
Also consider the risk assessment immigration authorities have to make when they examine a visa application. They have to consider flight risk, illegal working risk etc. It's a very sad fact of life that visas are most likely to be granted to people from high GDP countries. They are a lower risk, no matter how they speak or the colour of their skin.
You should however keep going with your job applications. Polish your CV and send it to the schools in the lower cities. More chance there I reckon. And don't give up. The system may not be great, but systems are there to be beaten. If you are qualified for the job it's up to you to prove it.
Good luck
i think they dont know the fact that in india most of the student studies every subject in english
Would you want to learn Punjab from an Englishman?
hunny797:
Edit: Punjab is the name of the place.. The language is Pujabi
Because your grammar just for this question is... questionable.
Most foreign English teachers in China do teach conversational English only, do not teach grammar. That is done by Chinese teachers. But in order to have the proper speech, you must really know grammar, and have no accent at all (that is why "native" speakers are requested). And whether you like it or not, most persons from India that I know do have a heavy accent.
No offense to Indians but in Australia majority of the taxi drivers are from the sub-continent (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka) and many times I fail to understand what they are saying to me so imagine Chinese students trying to understand the english from speakers from the sub-continent.
GuilinRaf:
I am not computer savvy at all, so I need to call customer service back home when I have trouble. It is very frustrating communicating with them because they dont understand me and I dont understand them.
Now, if they can speak clearly, and many do (with a British accent even) then by all means they should be hired!
dom87:
that goes for australians too, mostly they speak weird english and i have trouble to understand everything. note i understand british and american perfect
Largely (and leaving aside the blatant racism in Chinese culture), some Indian dialects in English are virtually impossible to understand anywhere outside of India. I'm not meaning to be insulting, it's just a general rule.
Depends on accent and English ability. Some I've known are near native speakers others I couldn't tell what the hell they were saying
Actually majority of the employers in China they believe in racial discrimination, they always look for skin not for skills, no doubt that Indian ascent is bit difficult to understand but on the other hand Indians are intelligent people and as per my experience Indians are growing rapidly in different professional fields such as doctors, engineers and professors than any other nation.
Well I can tell you that in UK, 3 out of ten doctors are from India.
crimochina:
doctors are not english teachers. my doctor was korean. and your confusing general intelligence with english ability. put that intelligence to work and realize you are in china
alicedancer:
incorrect,it may well be the case however in England
yes ,one has often found it dissapointing, the lack of artists ,poets etc. in the community
i dated one Indian man and came close to marrying another ,Indians can amongst the most xenophobic and racist of any lot!
One of my GFs friends is a professional Chinese interpreter, she has worked in Japan, China and Thailand. I have a neutral North American accent. She says I do not speak proper English because I'm not British and I speak too fast. The British accents?? Maybe good from Windsor but a Cockney accent, I can't even understand.
I can impersonate an Indian accent humourously and when I do it to her because she can't understand my accent, she can't understand a single word I speak.
Non-native speakers of English tend to carry over the intonation and phonemic inventory from their mother tonque into their English speech.
GuilinRaf:
I know a girl like that too who claims that my English is terrible and cannot understand why the school hired me. Her pronunciation really is excellent but her grammar leaves a lot to be desired (which I only pointed out once and that was after her attacks began). Anyway, the few times that we must be in the same table, I make it a point to ignore her completely. Very passive aggressive on my part, I know. Whenever someone asks why I ignore her, I tell them the truth. "She cannot stand my English, so I dont want her poor ears to suffer."
I just got sick of hearing her snide remarks all the time so now we both behave like children.
It has to be due in part because of the accent. Other than that non-native speaker of english!
Judging by the way you wrote the question, it is right and proper that you are not employed as an English teacher. However, the fundamental reason (in most private schools anyway) is marketing.
I'll give you a hint:
> Me: "So what are you studying?"
> Indian student: "yi-ah, aiima stuuuuudeeeey beezniss ahministrayyyyshin. aiii wii teeeeeaching dee eEEeeeeeeEEeeeenglish in uhh syyyyde."
> Me: I have to go commit suicide. I'll see you later.
> Me: "So what are you studying?"
> Native speaker: "Oh, Business Administration. I also teach English on the side."
hunny797:
I don't think any person would be using "OH" before answering the question..
Some provinces cause the issuance of FEC's to citizens of India to be an exceptionally arduous process -- I hate to say it. In the certain areas, it is virtually impossible -- in other areas, less so. I was told this was for political reasons.
dont forget not so long ago these two were at war over a piece of land the size of a postage stamp!
personally i find even the most literate of Indians often have a too strong accent for comfort or ease of learning
chinese dont care about englsh knowledge,they just care skin color and passport
politics, dear friend, nothing more, nothing less. Let's just let it go at that.
I agree that it's mostly to do with skin colour unfortunately.
But as other's have said, there is also a lot of politics involved. If the host country are unhappy with your country, they make it harder for you as an individual. French people have a hard time getting a visa for China, for reasons I will not mention here.
Every time I read of my country tightening their immigration policies, I feel dismayed. because these things are reciprocated.
Also consider the risk assessment immigration authorities have to make when they examine a visa application. They have to consider flight risk, illegal working risk etc. It's a very sad fact of life that visas are most likely to be granted to people from high GDP countries. They are a lower risk, no matter how they speak or the colour of their skin.
You should however keep going with your job applications. Polish your CV and send it to the schools in the lower cities. More chance there I reckon. And don't give up. The system may not be great, but systems are there to be beaten. If you are qualified for the job it's up to you to prove it.
Good luck
I think grammar is not a problem, the problem is the accent of speaking by Indians. Most of the Chinese people don't understand the Indian accent( Pronunciation) of english. So this can be a big problem.
Your grammar errors appear Chinese, not Indian. So, why the question?
Shining_brow:
Nah, that's Indian grammar... similar to Chinese, but still, it's Indian
because indians are not seen to be native speakers of english.
welcome back..good to see you after 2 years
coineineagh:
Yeah, not a frequent poster, but he still remembered his account password after 2 years. Definitely not a wumao, no sir. I guess we should count ourselves lucky that these manufactured accounts don't make sense. I remember one 20-something girl offering lessons, her account was created before the internet, somewhere in the '70s.