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Q: Why French wine purchased in Fujian has 2 tags?
I purchased yesterday 3 bottles of red 'La Viladelle' 2012, bottled in France with 2 identical tags on the opposite side of the bottle. There is also 3rd, smaller Chinese black tag on the bottle.
Wine is corked, and all looks fine, except tags. 1 bottle goes for 50 Rmb, but if you take 3 bottles, they sell it for 110 Rmb. They have more than 200 bottles on display in Super, all with two identical tags.
It is decent wine, which I think it should be chilled or drank with ice cube. I like to do that with all Italian table wines.
I'm not sure, if somebody asked similar Q about China already.
Are you talking about this wine: http://www.vivino.com/wineries/la-viladelle/wines/vin-pays-l-herault-9999 ?
icnif77:
Name is the same, but I can't see what's on website because 'snails pushing my broadband.
icnif77:
That's Austrian web site. What's wrong with you?
Austrians like 'anti-freeze' in their wines. People in Austria, when they see wine display, they all look up in the sky, similar as in the church. 'Thanks, I'm alive!'
DrMonkey:
On that website, there are 2 references for "La Viladelle", for 2 completely different provinces... Then if I search elsewhere, I find only Chinese references. Smell like rebottled fake, which are very common in China :p
Depends on the importer, usually they put their own stickers with a translation of the original tag and some additional info, but not always. You should be fine, but obviously no way to tell for sure.
PS: wine with ice cubes is a major offense that could get you jailed in France.
icnif77:
Not so in Italy, especially North, and when hot. Red or white drunk with water, or sometimes ice, like in Fujian. It is also important wine is table wine.
Ice 'kills' the taste. So, you get booze into your blood stream, without (not so good) taste.
If wine doesn't taste good, you can't drink 10 glasses, so you need ice or waterto get to the 'eppur si muove' level.
For 50 RMB/bottle, it have to be the lowest class, or it is rebottled local wine, which sells at the same price, like a bottle of "Changyu" grape wine...
I never heard of "La Viladelle", it's definitely not a town, nor a grape range name like "Cotes de Graves". Searching for it, I found nothing but Chinese references. In France, nothing, nada.
I find decent import wines for 100 to 200 RMB/bottle, red, white or rose. I had a nice Riesling last week for 100 RMB. Chili makes great red wines for great prices, but don't put ice in it, you barbarian !!!
icnif77:
It's not really good French. Very similar to Italian table wines. No type of the wine on the any of 2 tags, I can just tell 'color'.
I wasn't sure, if our masters can copy bottling and all 'cork wrap'. It looks, they made mistake, and stick 2 tags on it.
'Front' tag is large one, approx. 7 or 8 cm x 6 cm wide. However, tag on the 'back' is with the same print, but smaller 5cm x4cm.
It's interesting, there is also 3rd Chinese stamp on it, so it looks bottle just 'arrived' from Cote d' Azure, and got stamped by Chinese duty (drunk) officer.
It's definitely bottled by our masters.
I guess, if somebody can look in Super, there might be more 'two tags bottles' around China. Price is 'around' 50, I don't remember right number. I went for 3 bottles 'discount'. 'Cheapy laowai'
I have pics of 2 tags bottle, but I'm not sure how to up-load…to our 'hostess' Board.
A bottle of red for 50. That is 100% coutnerfeit. . Like 75% of all "French" wines in China
icnif77:
3 for 110 Rmb. Aren't Super's Gov.'s or they are privately run?
I have 1l milk in the paper box from the same Super, with plastic 'part' on the top as opening. When you pull the paper on the box (inside the plastic part), milk is open.
Now, you pour some milk in the cup, and 1/2 of the milk runs on the floor. At every pour. Why? Because plastic part should be with edge some 1mm 'longer' than the box, or 'over' the edge of the box, so milk would run only to the cup.
Always, when I'm pouring milk, I must do it with mop close by.
Scandinavian:
In China, supermarket manager decides what goes on the shelf, only some items are bought by the "chain". So you could easily have the manager had a "great offer on some awesome French wine"
Anyway. I'd much rather go for an Aussi Shiraz or go for the king of reds, Brunello. French wine is great as a beverage when you are eating food in France.
icnif77:
I fancy Brunello Montalcino big time. I consider it as 'medicine'.
Scandinavian:
I always say I have no regrets. But I did in 2006 bring a bottle of 1997 Brunello to a gfs as a "let's have this for dinner" thing. She used half to make sauce for the dinner..... Naturally that relationship didn't last long
icnif77:
It's your fault! You didn't explain, what 'gem' she is, I mean 'she's got'!
reminds me of the rothschild wine scam a few years ago, some winery in france makes 250000 bottles a year and sends 50000 to china, but the distributer bragged in chinese literature here about selling 800000 bottles of rothschild for the calendar year to the investors in the company.
have frequent visitors from abroad who bring me duty free, never buy any wine in china anymore.
I get good Chilean wines for 35 a bottle...my wife works in a hotel 
DrMonkey:
I find good Chilean red wine for 100 to 150 RMB/bottle, in an import wine shop or in supermarkets. You buy that wine in a shop, or it's "a bottle fallen from the truck" ? At 35 RMB, I'm not even sure it covers the transportation cost from the wineyard to China.
icnif77:
You 'hoteliere'!
Chileans are 'under-priced' in China, 'cause......but as soon as we have French bottle (it might be straight from Perpignan who knows..) up we go with the price. And ssshhh....'it was bottled and corked in Shandong port 'winery'.
You can't say before the dinner in China: 'I got an excellent bottle from Chile'
Me: 'I got an excellent bottle from Cote 'd Azur (in proper frenchi pronunciation). After I say 'Cote d' Azure', everybody goes: 'oooh, you speak French, too!'
manasyt:
My wife works in a 5 star hotel...They buy it for 35, it is more than 100 on the menu, so I get the retail price or whatever it's called...Clear now? 
icnif77:
Hotel prices are more expensive than retail, I think.
I'll look, what we got of Chile in our 'two tags wine library'.
It's 'buckets', here. I don't want to open my umbrella to go to Super.
icnif77:
Nothing of Chile, just few Spanish bottles for 140 Rmb a piece. We fancy French on North!It's got something to do with the stomach acid......
