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Sign up with Google Sign up with FacebookQ: Will your Chinese father and mother in law get pension in your home country?
I know some countries have this. Which western countries do and which ones don't? (The newly weds sponsor the parents from China, then if they are of the required age, they get pension from the country where they have migrated to).
11 years 6 weeks ago in Relationships - China
I don't really understand the question.
However, in the UK my mother-in-law and father-in-law have absolutely no right to immigrate to the UK so no they don't have any rights to any welfare, indeed my wife (who is now a British Citizen) only has limited rights as she has never paid into the system, either in tax or in National Insurance contributions.
ChickMag:
In Australia and Canada when you marry your spouse you can then sponsor her parents, then after time they become residents, then later citizens, then eligible for government pension, even though they have never paid into it.
Scandinavian:
ChickMag. I think you are wrong. Maybe you are confusing the term "pension" with other social benefits such as access to free hospitals, which in the west typically comes by just having a residence permit, where full benefits only come with citizenship (and even in that case that can have restrictions)
ChickMag:
They have to live in Canada for 10 years I just read. Time that they have visited in prior years also counts. They don't have to contribute and are still eligible for a few pensions, but the main pension they will only get a small percentage of.
They don't in Canada.
ChickMag:
Are you sure? I think they do. I am not 100% sure but I read that Australia does and Canada. Not sure about England and America
nevermind:
Canada does not. They don't even cover for government medical.
ChickMag:
You can sponsor them the same time you sponsor the spouse, they become Canadian residents after a few years then they receive the same medical treatment as any citizen and same social aid if needed as a citizen would, but their pension will only be partial and have to live in Canada for 10 years, may be 3 years in the future.
A person has to pay into pension to collect in Canada and they count how many years you contribute.
ChickMag:
I read an article that talked about this whole debate, and Canadians were pissed about this saying some new immigrants can come and collect pension without paying into it. I know I read that, but I never really got into specifics. You may be right, I will try to find something on the net.
TedDBayer:
We have many immigrates on welfare and living in public housing. These are benefits paid for by home owners and working Canadians. I understand being pissed off about it. You would live better on our welfare than middle class in many countries, plus free dental, drugs etc.
No, but they would've had that (from me), and a lot more. Too bad they got greedy. Anyway, you have to pay into it here.
Parents and/or grandparents of the spouse can in Canada, but only partial pension, and having lived in Canada longer than 10 years.
in america the wifes parents would have to work 40 financial quarters, ten years , each quarter must have a minimum of 1100 dollars in that quarter reported to the irs as income. if you have not paid alot in to the system, their is a minimum amount you would draw anyway. the minimum was 865 the last time i checked but the number changes with inflation each year.
You should post the article you've got into it about those options in Canada.
ChickMag:
I posted below. Another article I once read people were talking about new provisions and loop holes that were good for immigrants but had some Canadians unhappy.
I highly doubt it and I should bloody well hope not - not merely by dint of being the in-law of an Australian.
I wouldn't expect my own parents to be able to make a claim on the government of my partner; why should any non-citizen be able to claim social security from another country?
ChickMag:
A bill is trying to be passed by an MP that will allow new immigrants that were sponsored by their son/daughter or grandson/granddaughter to get partial and long-term pension after 3 years, currently they have to wait 10 years, unless they are from another western country then they wait 3 years. but the pension is only partial, not full.
MissA:
In Australia? In any case, son is not son-in-law, and it takes years and years for spousal migrants to get full citizenship.
Do you mean pension, like what you get paid after you retire from a job or do you mean social welfare, like medical care, housing, etc?
You seem to be lumping them both in the same thing.....
ChickMag:
I mean pension. There are different ones. The social welfare and medical they will get the same as citizens would as soon as they become permanent residents, which only takes a year or two.
Not in the U.S.A. No way, no how. I don't know about other jurisdictions.