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Q: would you make culturally offensive gestures in China?

during your time in China, would you make any gestures that would be considered culturally offensive to local people?

I certainly would not.

I would research before any gestures that could be considered 'no no's' in China and avoid using them

 

From European news:

Two Chinese tourists were arrested in Berlin for making Hitler salutes outside the German parliament on Saturday.

 

Criminal proceedings have been started against the middle-aged men for using symbols from a banned organisation.

The pair have been released on bail of €500 (£450; $600) each.

Germany has strict laws on hate speech and symbols linked to Hitler and the Nazis.

The men - aged 36 and 49 - could face a fine or a prison sentence of up to three years, according to police.

 

The same charges are most commonly used to prosecute members of the far right.

A police spokeswoman told AFP news agency that the men could leave the country during the investigation and that if a fine is handed down, the bail money they had already paid would probably cover it.

The visitors were seen taking pictures of each other with their mobile phones outside the Reichstag building, which houses the German parliament.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40842853

18 weeks 5 days ago in  Culture - China

 
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Those types of laws need to go

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Those types of laws need to go

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I am totally against the anti Nazi laws.

 

If I want to be a Nazi, then it is my right to be one. No fucker can tell me what I am allowed to believe. It should not be censored The left should not censor the right.  And the left should not censor the right.  I am against thought police..

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Why I am not surprised to see that some Chinese hold Nazis in high esteem. I have heard such things before as Hitler was a strong leader and he loved Germany.

I tell them yeah sure, and Imperial Japan was really cool too, the 731 unit did an awesome job, watch them go berserk.

China, my suffering is more important than yours.

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I actually wonder what they teach about Germany and Hitler in schools here. They know nothing about the holocaust and revere Hitler as a good leader like Mao. Every time I have a conversation with a high school student, I walk away shaking my head and remember China is like being in "alice in wonderland" and get another drink.

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PRC mainlanders can salute Hitler in Germany but Justin Beiber visiting the Yasukuni Shrine in Japan is a no no, and thus he had to apologise to YOU for it.  

 

He offered the aplogizes and you still banned him from performing in prc. 

 

Wow, you are strong, china. You are the number one thug, bully and master of double standards.  Yeah, right, you DO deserve the world's respect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasukuni_Shrine?from=singlemessage

 

http://time.com/73264/justin-bieber-visits-controversial-shrine/

The link should work. Just in case you need a vpn but don't have it in prc, below is an excerpt from the link.

 

"According to the international pop sensation’s Twitter and Instagram accounts, Bieber dropped by the notorious Yasukuni Shrine this week, where he paid his respects to Japan’s war dead, including former military leaders from the country's imperial army who committed mass atrocities across Asia and the Pacific during World War II.

“Thank you for your blessings,” tweeted Bieber, which garnered more than 666,000 likes on Instagram and tens of thousands of retweets before the singer suddenly removed the image from his account.

Thank you for your blessings. http://t.co/qmK0i5spBT

— Justin Bieber (@justinbieber) April 22, 2014

But Bieber's China fans were less than impressed by the visit, urging him on social media to remove the picture out of respect for the dead. Bieber eventually responded to the controversy caused by the incident with an Instagram post on Wednesday of TIME's story on the upset:

 

While in Japan I asked my driver to pull over for which I saw a beautiful shrine. I was mislead to think the Shrines were only a place of prayer. To anyone I have offended I am extremely sorry. I love you China and I love you Japan

A post shared by Justin Bieber (@justinbieber) on Apr 23, 2014 at 2:39am PDT

"While in Japan I asked my driver to pull over for which I saw a beautiful shrine," wrote Bieber. "I was mislead to think the Shrines were only a place of prayer. To anyone I have offended I am extremely sorry. I love you China and I love you Japan."

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John Rabe, a Nazi, was one of the founders of the Nanjing Safety Zone in 1937, just prior to the Nanjing Massacre, and is personally credited with saving over 250,000 Chinese civilians. He was one of the few foreigners to stay in Nanjing during the Massacre, documenting the Japanese atrocities. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rabe

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Symbols (and gestures) are extremely powerful in all walks of life - just look at any team supporters who wear the 'colours' of their team, or sing 'team songs' at matches.

it is about being identified as part of a particular group.

 

equally flags are powerful symbols (see nationalism and patriotism) and burning a flag is seen by some as the ultimate insult they can make to a different country.

 

in an ideal world you should be able to exercise 'free speech'. But some gestures/symbols have such strong negative connotations that their association (especially their association with certain groups and ideologies) is so negative that using them is seen as an incitement or wish to return to the time when it was acceptable to hold such negative views. 

 

recently an American congressman saw fit to make a video in Auschwitz, in an area where people were asked - in many languages - to remain silent for reflection and respect. Was he exercising free speech?

 

I don't think claiming ignorance when in a foreign country is a valid excuse, especially when you are a supposedly educated adult.

 

recently there was a clothing company who tried to 'reclaim' the swastika as a symbol of peace by making it 'fun' or "nothing says “freedom” and “peace” more than wearing a t-shirt adorned with a bright, white swastika."(according to them) on a multi-coloured background

it is an ancient hindu/buddist symbol after all - but the recent negative associations have changed this significantly. and equally the hindu/buddist versions tend to be small and have many together.

 

so would you want to wear clothing with one large swastika on it in Europe and claim 'free speech'?

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Are involuntary facial expressions of disgust culturally inappropriate? If so, I do every time I set foot outside. I must be a horrible poker player.

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Me: I spit on your country!

 

Locals: Gee thanks! We like when people who come here try to blend in and adopt our culture. Try the pissing and shitting also... especially in a supermarket.

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