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Q: Another example of how GoFundMe is the biggest scam ever.

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/2180670/she-woke-t...

 

While teaching in a third tier city in China eight years ago, I contracted GBS and was almost completely paralyzed. I was in the hospital for a month, dependent on the family of the patient I shared a room with to bring me food (usually various types of cheap street food including insects). My Director of Studies sent my mother an email saying I was dying. The US Department of State called me at the hospital and I told them I hadn't planned on dying anytime soon. The doctors gave me an experimental nerve serum derived from mice (no joke). After a few weeks, I regained feeling in my extremities and after another week I left the hospital. I completed my teaching contract and continued to work in China. No one sent me any money (let alone $76,000). Again, another example of how GoFundMe scams ppl into believing that a condition or circumstance is worse than it actually is.

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Quinn. Can you post a link to the story that will open in China?

I ask because I do basically agree that these crowdsourcing sites are a scam.

Ohh, if only we had some sort of world wide single payer heathcare scheme.

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Quinn. Can you post a link to the story that will open in China?

I ask because I do basically agree that these crowdsourcing sites are a scam.

Ohh, if only we had some sort of world wide single payer heathcare scheme.

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How about this one:

 

$3.5 Trillion A Year: Is America's Health Care System The World's Largest Money-Making Scam?

 

If the U.S. health care system was a country, it would have the fifth largest GDP on the entire planet...

 You can open Zero's links even in Katmandu ... 

 

PulSartre:

However conspiratory, the link leads to entertaining readings. A blunt way of looking at things. The one about the American Health System is about keeping people sick so they can pretend to cure them.  I wish I could conclude with our friend's saying: "and that's why I drink", but I don't drink at all. 

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icnif77:

I know ... weed  has healthy properties and it isn't addictive .... 

 

I rarely get into the alcohol these days ... I don't even fancy wine anymore.

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ScotsAlan:

PulSarte. Thats what Americans dont get about euro style socialised medicine. Prevention is cheaper than cure. And when Government control drug buying and approval with tax payers money, big Pharma are less likely to gouge. You wont get opioids in the UK for back pain for example.

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PulSartre:

Scots, for some reason, as little I know, I find the UK health system one of the best in Europe. Particularly when it comes to relation doctor patient. However, that nature about American people which you underline is a trend in Europe already and mostly throughout all developed and less développée countries. The big Pharmas keep money flowing in as long as people are sick or about to be sick. 

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ScotsAlan:

PulSarte. Fox headlined an opinion today about AOC and her euro socialist model. They told blatent lies about the UK NHS. The GOP are terrified of AOC. I dont agree with all her policies, but by God, she terrifies the GOP.

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https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/2180670/she-woke-t...

 

She woke up in Thailand paralysed but Caroline Bradner will be heading home after family raises US$76,000 online 

 

    • Guillain-Barre Syndrome affects an estimated one in 100,000 people and can cause widespread paralysis
    • A friend staying with Bradner helped her reach the local hospital, where she was diagnosed with Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), an inflammatory autoimmune disorder which affects an estimated one in 100,000 people and can cause widespread paralysis. It can take months or years to recover.

       

      Bradner, a recent graduate of University of Mississippi, had been living in Surat Thani on the east coast of Thailand’s southern peninsula teaching primary school English for two months when she started feeling weak. She visited the local hospital, where she had blood taken. She was given medication and sent home. When she woke the next morning, she was paralysed from the neck down.

       

      “The problem with GBS is there are no definite markers that indicate what it is,” James Bradner, Caroline’s father, told the South China Morning Post. “You get symptoms that could be other things too. We’ve got to give them credit, the doctor pretty quickly had a good idea that was what the problem was.”

       

      As the Bradners scrambled to figure out how they could bring Caroline back to the US, they found out her travel insurance company would not cover emergency transportation home. That’s when they decided to start a GoFundMe campaign to raise funds to cover the cost of her medical care in Thailand, transportation home and months of rehabilitation in the US.

      In just two days, they reached their campaign goal of US$70,000. At the time of writing, the campaign had been running for three days and raised US$76,051. The money was raised almost entirely through donations less than US$100. The Bradners never expected such an outpouring of donations.

      “We were blown away,” James said. “We didn’t come close to expecting this kind of response.”

      Friends of the family contacted local Virginia cable news affiliates. CBS first picked up the story and the rest followed. Soon Caroline’s story was on Fox News.

      On the second day of the campaign, the insurance company let the Bradners know they would cover Caroline’s flight back to the US. The money raised online will cover the cost of Caroline’s care until she can leave Thailand and her rehabilitation in the US. The family has pledged any remaining funding will be donated to Guillain-Barre Syndrome Foundation International.

      Caroline had been teaching through Xplore Asia, a programme which connects English language teachers with schools in Thailand. Her father said the school had been supportive throughout the ordeal. Thailand introduced universal health care coverage in 2001, and in some cases foreigners have to pay upfront for care if admitted to hospital.

      Lisa Caponetto, a claims examiner for World Nomads Travel Insurance – which is not involved in Bradner’s case – explained that for many travellers and people abroad for temporary stays, travel insurance provides a backup to their primary insurance in their home nation. When a traveller submits a claim, it goes first to their primary insurance and the remainder to the travel insurance.

      “For most people, the coverage is ... a safe haven for whatever their standard insurance doesn’t cover,” Caponetto said.

      Although the cause of GBS is unknown, the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention reports its onset is typically triggered by an infection like the flu or food-borne illness from campylobacter bacteria. GBS causes the immune system to attack nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and paralysis. Most people recover fully from GBS, although some have lasting nerve damage. In very rare cases, people have died of GBS.

      “That’s the frustrating part about this disease,” James said. “You don’t know how long it’s going to take to get better. Each person is affected differently.”

      GBS can be treated by plasma exchange or immunoglobulin therapy. Caroline has received several courses of immunoglobulin therapy, her father said, and her condition has improved to the point she can open and close her hands. According to the Mayo Clinic, 80 per cent of adults recovering from GBS can walk independently six months after diagnosis.

      Caroline’s mother, Lou, arrived in Surat Thani the day after Christmas to be with Caroline while she recovers. The family plan to transport her on a stretcher via commercial flight to the US in the coming weeks.

      “She’s getting better each day,” James said. “It’s already a big improvement from where we were a week ago."

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    ScotsAlan:

    thanks icnif

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    PulSartre:

    There is hope! Thank God she is getting better.

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    I don't consider it a scam. If anything it's socialized medicine the way it should be. I'd rather help chip in money for a friend in need exactly when they need it, and know that it's going to the right place, rather than the government forcibly take my money for faceless people with no accountability for how it's spent.  

    ScotsAlan:

    No. You chip in a percentage of your wage. Think back to the anti Ted Cruz ads.. he does not tithe. Free universal healthcare is a human right. It should not depend on having rich friends. UK National insurance is a flat rate tax, sort of. To rely upon rich patrons for healthcare is a hark back to fuedal society. A tax on tea if you like. Where the poor pay tax to the rich and get no benefit.

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    hi2u:

    What are you talking about? How can you say my choice to give my money to someone in need is like a poor person paying money to the rich with no benefit? Who's the poor man and who's the rich man?

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    Quinn68:

    Accountability? You mean like when that white trash couple collaborated with the homeless vet to bilk gullible people out of $400,000? Sure, GoFundMe compensated all donors in this scam, but how many other elaborate sob stories were created by other scammers? How can you prove otherwise? The only monetary donations I make are to the SPCA. At least I know the money is going where it should.

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    hi2u:

    Quinn: Learn to find the main point man. Here it is:

    I'd rather help chip in money for a friend in need exactly when they need it, and know that it's going to the right place, rather than the government forcibly take my money for faceless people with no accountability for how it's spent. 

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