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Q: Any recent information about Nanjing Ivy Education?

On The International Educator job site, there are many, many, many openings with Nanjing Ivy Education From what (http://cct.js.cn). There is also some info about them here on eChinaCities (http://m.jobs.echinacities.com/employer/2894554). From what I can see on their website, they have offices in several towns in Jiangsu Province, possibly out of the way places. Beyond that, I cannot find any reviews of what it is like to work for them. A large number of vacancies could be a red flag, but maybe they are a growing company? Which could also be a reason to be cautious about working for them. Just wondering if anyone has any info about what it is like to work for Nanjing Ivy Education Group?

 

-Thanks.

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I've heard great things about them, my mate worked for them and like he said it all depends on who is the manager of the school. They can legally hire you easily especially in Nanjing

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I've heard great things about them, my mate worked for them and like he said it all depends on who is the manager of the school. They can legally hire you easily especially in Nanjing

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Ironman, Thanks for the info. Sounds like they could be a decent choice.

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don't rely solely on forum responses when choosing a place of work in China (no offense intended @ironman)

question the potential employer closely on terms and conditions of living, pay and employment.

a good employer will be willing to answer any and all questions.

a dodgy employer gets 'butt-hurt' and 'offended' if asked basic things like work hours, former / current employees, living arrangements etc.

 

just employ due diligence 

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I do take offense to that Blondie_.. IF you've ever watched Mr. Robot than you would understand when WhiteRose tells you time is something you don't have and thats the same for China, you have only a short window to study a company, well, unless you did it on your first day at a new job, (Wow thinking about switching jobs on the first day?) Anyway a school or company will give you all the "honeymoon answers" you need to make the hire happen. You're funny, haha I wish I could try this with EF with you next to me and we ask this potential EF employer their terms and conditions haha. 

 

Wake up man or girl, forums are better because we've been there, done that, got the T-Shirt! We can tell you how it is, you actually think an employer is gonna sell you the truth?

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@ironman

if you believe answers from a chinese employer at face value without any further follow up, 'you are braver man than i am (Gunga Din)'.

certainly most of the potential employers have not given any 'honey-moon' answers to me - they would 'get offended' if i asked very basic stuff that they did not advertise.

and if they do give 'honey-moon' answers, i would try to corroborate from other sources.

I would advise direct questioning to a school as well as forum questions, relying solely on neither one or the other.

 

there are many employers who get 'offended' if you ask basic questions that any normal person should ask.

looking for contact details of existing FT's for example.

 

And i would always take a chinese employers responses with a large pinch of salt.

I have had some places 'get offended' when i ask about teaching hours.

 

for someone wanting to work in china, all avenues of information should be explored, and thorough due diligence

 

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ouch !

3 down-thumbs - it is so nice to think i have stalkers 

being 'offended' because i am suggesting due diligence is so laughable 

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