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Q: Are India and China really starting a war over 68 meters of land?

http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/whats-driving-the-india-china-standoff-at-doklam/

 

China builds roads through buildings, canals, under the ocean, just move the damn road over or blow up some mountains and make a new pass through. It will certainly be cheaper than a war.

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I think the issue is more about Chinese aggression and expansion than anything else.

 

Firstly, the OBOR initiative, and the economic ties with Pakistan won't be to India's advantage.

 

But, perhaps more importantly, is China's complete ignorance of the Hague Resolution regarding the SCS, and BJ's treatment of the other countries in those 'disputes'. So, if China is showing the rest of the world that they don't give a toss about what they have to say or think - then yes, taking a stand against them is obvious... especially when you're a country that is about to become its economic rival!

 

(and, finally, add to that the resistance that China has faced from the US via Trump... AND that China has done bugger all to stop NK... much against the international communities wishes!)

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I'm sure there are maps from the Victorian Era when the Indian sub continent was part of the British Empire and Tibet was still quasi independent as a British protectorate. Of course the Chinese will go to war. The Indians aren't likely to because they aren't to worried about face. On the other hand the CPP must show it's people that it is all powerful.

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China is bullying it's neighbors and their response is a test for future 'map incarnations' 

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China uncensored did a piece about this recently, go look it up on youtube

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Notice how they are both countries with a relatively small average size down here. Small men and their need to overcompensate.

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I take it you're very well endowed then. In my experience people who talk about size as much as you do are generally HUGE.

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You mom said that I am.

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I think the issue is more about Chinese aggression and expansion than anything else.

 

Firstly, the OBOR initiative, and the economic ties with Pakistan won't be to India's advantage.

 

But, perhaps more importantly, is China's complete ignorance of the Hague Resolution regarding the SCS, and BJ's treatment of the other countries in those 'disputes'. So, if China is showing the rest of the world that they don't give a toss about what they have to say or think - then yes, taking a stand against them is obvious... especially when you're a country that is about to become its economic rival!

 

(and, finally, add to that the resistance that China has faced from the US via Trump... AND that China has done bugger all to stop NK... much against the international communities wishes!)

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It seems like a stupid reason to go to war to me, but I suppose it's marginally less stupid than fighting over whose religion of peace and tolerance is the true one. At least you can grow potatoes or build something on 68 meters of land.

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The unspoken reason they are retracting foreign investment...those assets will be seized when hostilities break out

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The unspoken reason they are retracting foreign investment...those assets will be seized when hostilities break out

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India would be smarter to leave and in the winter, blow the damn thing up and blame it on an avalanche. They happen all the time in that area.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-07/china-threatens-small-scale-mil...

 

Is there anything in Himalaya called 'South China Sea' , too?

 

In the latest escalation between two nuclear powers, China has turned the war threat amplifier up to '11' by threatening India (in an article published a Chinese state-controlled newspaper) that it could conduct a "small-scale military operation" to expel Indian troops from a contested region in the Himalayas.

The latest standoff started in June, after Chinese troops started building a road on a remote plateau, which is disputed by China and Bhutan.  Indian troops countered by moving to the flashpoint zone to halt the work, with China accusing them of violating its territorial sovereignty and calling for their immediate withdrawal.

China then added a large number of troops to the region:

  

"The crossing of the mutually recognised national borders on the part of India... is a serious violation of China's territory and runs against the international law," Chinese defence ministry spokesman Wu Qian told a press conference quoted by AFP, adding that "the determination and the willingness and the resolve of China to defend its sovereignty is indomitable, and it will safeguard its sovereignty and security interests at whatever cost."

 

He also said that "border troops have taken emergency response measures in the area and will further step up deployment and trainings in response to the situation," without giving any details about the deployment.

Then it escalated with a Chinese Ministry of Defense official now warning explicitly that Indian troops must leave the contested area if they do not want war.

Who is going to feed them all  if they'll start with war? 

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No, they are not both starting a war. The area in question is Bhutanese territory, recognized by most world governments. When the People's Republic of China launched an unsolicited incursion into another soverign territory which has no military, it asked a friendly democratic neighbor for assistance. Bhutan = Belgium. Neither side can afford to look weak by backing down, but winter is coming.

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Actually, according to all reports I read, Bhutan did NOT ask India to intervene.

 

However, India does have the right to should they decide it's in their best interests (which, obviously, they do).

 

Bhutan, at this stage, has played it diplomatically, and not said either side is in the wrong... (I'm inclined to think they're grateful to India, but can't publicly say that).

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China is at it again... boring, old, paper bully China. 

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Just found! 20,000 year old documents proving that India has always been a part of China, and needs to be liberated.

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I think it's a British document from the 1890s.

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