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Q: are there chinese online websites advertising apartments to rent

i want to avoid paying realtors

2 years 6 days ago in  Housing - China

 
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sometimes you catch Chinese citizens who have foreign influence renting a place on Craigslist, but you have to watch out for scammers, have a Chinese person check the place out and talk with the neighbors and the property management to make sure everything is exactly like the landlord professes.

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Ignore Icnifs reply. For real Chinese websites you need to check 58 or Anjuke. The first riboflavin is they’re all in Chinese and you new to know which buttons to press to look at direct rentals from landlords 

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sometimes you catch Chinese citizens who have foreign influence renting a place on Craigslist, but you have to watch out for scammers, have a Chinese person check the place out and talk with the neighbors and the property management to make sure everything is exactly like the landlord professes.

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58.com is pretty good. Lots are direct from the homeowner. Although the agency advertises on there too. Get a web browser translator and you can navigate through the site pretty good.

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58 has many scammers, but you also have a great chance of meeting real landlords too. I found 2 of my apartments on it via landlords, the current one is a one bedroom apartment with its own toliet and kitchen, 1700 rmb per month in the city center right by the metro station. Every convinient, have all kinds of food places downstairs. You won't be able to find anything like this unless you find a landlord.

 

There are other apps I checked before, ganji (赶集) is one, xianyu(闲鱼) is a second-hand platform but also have apartments there. But mostly agencies so I do not recommend it.

 

Avoid agencies at all costs if you can, unless you are the rich dummy. When checking the pictures of apartments, you will be able to tell if it is an agent or not. If it's too good to be true, then maybe it's not true. But also check if the person have a lot of house to rent out. Avoid those. Ask the person if the apartment is still available, if they say which one, or it's gone, they can recommend similar ones, avoid those like plague.

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i just thought i'd give my experience of using the website 58.com and other rental websites not that anybody cares.

the prices on the website were between 500 and 1300 less than the prices the agents quoted. this is all price. I never found a price closer than that. all the advertised apartments were from agents. I think it d be very difficult to find an actual owner

often the photos are fake, the agent told me this is to save effort of going to take them. or because it was difficult to go take them because previous inhabitant was never in. many of the apartments are fake just to draw people's interest. for many agents when you ask them a price they do not want to tell you. you have to go see them in person. im not sure if this is to protect information or whatever.

some agents are freelance and and will contact another agent and arrange a higher price. some people subrent from an agent thinking that they can get a higher price for the apartment. the agents will not tell you if an apartment is shared. I thought an apartment was a little cheaper than normal. turns out I would have been sharing a kitchen and a living room with a random Chinese person

renting apartments in china is about as transparent as dog shit. from now on I will steer clear on housing allowance in china and only apply for schools with decent free apartments.

when I took my next job I agreed to a housing allowance that I thought was ok. this was based on checking 58.com and getting a general idea. now I think ill be lucky if my housing allowance covers 60 percent of a reasonable apartment. not including fees and deposit. I was stupid, stupid so stupid

why does 58.com not have correct prices. just another crazy day in china

oh I forget to mention. two different agents quoted different prices for the same apartment

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Website www.58.com has rental classfied ads based on agents, personal owners and branded apartments (who get houses from personal owners, furnish them and lease out with a mark-up).

 

The advantage with an agent or branded apartment though, is that you actually are dealing with a company, with a proper contract. Here if you have a dispute with a personal lesser, you're not much protected.

 

As an aside, the thing I realize is that if you are able to read Chinese life is actually a lot easier here.

 

Good luck!

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Saw some ranting under this thread, I understand how frustrating it must be, so I thought I'd share my views about dealing with agents.

 

Its true, many agents here upload secnod hand pictures to get us hooked, it's their working culture to give out teasers (right word?) to get business leads. Is it complete dishonesty? I'm no one to judge. 

 

All I can suggest is deal with agents and know your tactic. Clearly state your criteria, ask them to add you on Wechat and demand that they send you a video about the apartment and even better, make a video call to your Wechat while they're at the apartment and let you see the place.

 

This is how I verify the apartments.

 

Stand your ground when negotiating the price (provided you're offering a reasonable one!). Agents depend a lot on sales made, so tell them you'd like to close the deal with them, take my offer.

 

Some agents want to close the deal with you so much, that they'd offer you a price below the norm to their company, but under the table.

 

Say they'll sign a 2000 rmb/month contract with you while both of you agreed on 1950 rmb, and he/she then kicks back 50rmb x 12 months out of his/her own wallet (assuming the contract is effective for one year).

 

Hope this helps!

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