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Q: Are you sure about your anti-death penalty stance?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-beating-stepson-death-150750670.html

 

 

 

Perfect example of why the death penalty should never be taken off the table

49 weeks 3 days ago in  Money & Banking - China

 
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Hmmm...you're a pretty lenient guy if you think killing someone is the worst thing you can do to them.Killing someone is near the bottom of the list of things that should be done to that guy...taken right off the table even....if done properly, this guy would be wishing for death every day for the rest of his life....but since he's in America...well..they wont do what should be done to him. And if in this was done in Canada...well he would be living better then a homeless person. They get 3 meals a day and tv time and all this other bullshit....if that is going to be his fate...then maybe killing him would be better. Point is, there are far worst fates than death....problem is, western countries don't do them.

 

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Can you explain why this is your perfect example?

 

For me I can never justify taking a life for a life. The perp should be banged up for life & made to work for his food & rood ivsr his head. 

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Hmmm...you're a pretty lenient guy if you think killing someone is the worst thing you can do to them.Killing someone is near the bottom of the list of things that should be done to that guy...taken right off the table even....if done properly, this guy would be wishing for death every day for the rest of his life....but since he's in America...well..they wont do what should be done to him. And if in this was done in Canada...well he would be living better then a homeless person. They get 3 meals a day and tv time and all this other bullshit....if that is going to be his fate...then maybe killing him would be better. Point is, there are far worst fates than death....problem is, western countries don't do them.

 

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commented on wrong person, please delete.

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The courts don't always get the verdict right. Sooner or later you're gonna get a wrongful execution.

Teng Xingshan was a resident of Huaihua. He was accused, convicted and executed for the murder of Shi Xiaorong.

Shi Xiaorong turned up in Huaihua a few months after his execution. She was in Shandong.

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Firstly - "perfect example"??? Nah. I'm not convinced for this one.

 

The arsehole who kidnaps random women, rapes and tortures them, and then kills them.. yep - that's a perfect example!

 

This guy - personally, I'm not sure he'd deserve the death penalty... Firstly, there doesn't appear to be intent to actually kill (which you may think doesn't matter... but saying that would have other unforeseen consequences!)

 

Did he make the other kids sleep in the bed with 'the body'? Or, with someone who may have been unconscious? Getting the other kids to hurt him as well?? Yeah, that's what bullies do at school... how do you punish them? What if they accidentally kill a kid like that?

 

 

Yes, I'm all for the death penalty. But, for a specific set of crimes.

 

As for some suggesting the government doesn't have the 'right'. Ummm - rights don't exist! Honestly, you can't point to a 'right' and say "look, there it is!"

 

Continuing on - no-one has an actual 'right' to life. I know it sounds good, but it doesn't exist. If there was, then people wouldn't be dying all the time. AND, we'd all be responsible for those that did die through our not giving a shit.

 

'Rights' are merely suggestions that people choose to go along with... (at least until such time as it becomes inconvenient..). Sometimes, those 'rights' are put into constitutions and other legal books... but just look how often they're ignored! When you're getting carried away by the local police, just see how far your "I know my rights" will get you.

 

 

As for the death penalty vs any other form of penalty... the big question is - why? What is the purpose behind sentencing? Is it merely to punish the offender? Is it to give some form of justice to the relatives and other associated persons? (and, if the person has no-one, does that mean no punishment??) If a person is accused of one crime, but has committed others (but not found guilty), should the punishment be for all crimes - or only the one? (eg, if Hitler was still alive, and goes to court to fight a traffic ticket?) Is it as a deterrent to others?  And, lastly, is punishment  about trying to get offenders to conform to society's standards (ie, rehabilitation)?

 

 

For me, since I don't think life is a particularly awesome thing in and of itself (oh wow - you got born... so what??), and the value of life is in how it is lived - AND how it is lived in relation to other people (ie, society)... then I think a well-organised (and created) government that serves the will of the people* (and their betterment) does have the right to set the death penalty for some crimes.

 

(* - self-imposed governments do not serve the will of the people. Governments that only pander to the ego of the people do not serve their betterment)

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Over the past few weeks I have watched the Kav stuff.

I saw a Judge cry, I saw a Judge lie, bareface lie over what fffff means, bareface lie over being part of a team that shagged a woman. he lied about drinking games. He lied about his drinking, and he claimed Soros and the Clintons were trying to trying to destroy his siver spoon reputation.

This man is now one ninth of the death panel.

Neil Gorsuch, he was elected. His first vote on SCOTUS was yes to execute.

And these guys are so called Christians. Sigh.

I enjoyed seeing Kav squirm. Probably on the same way he enjoyed deciding some dude for the chair was a lier.

Put that into perspective. Some dude with a job for life, country club membership, and Yale for his daugters, is deciding you die because ......because he said he would.

The death sentence is political. Religious under sharia of course.

I was a born again Christian.But how the fuck can one be a lesser born Christian when the senior rapture guys are going against all you believe in, and are saying to the public that you will go to hell for having anything other than right wk
wing 'Christian values'

Think about that. The snivelling lying cunt kav will decide who lives and who dies.

Swamp entitlement at its max.

Nobody has a right to take a life.

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My own view is that some people commit crimes that fully merit the death penalty. However, even the most advanced countries with a good legal system, a significant percentage of people are innocent. This will always be the case. Some great minds estimate that 5 to seven percent of those on death row are innocent. If you murder an innocent percent, regardless of reason, it’s murder.  That in the pursuit of punishing evil we took innocent lives is not something I think god would understand. america  needs to stop this

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This week Kav voted to deny a killer the chair, he has to be injected.

The guys guilt is not in doubt. I think he was convicted in 1985? You need look it up. Cant post a link just now.

Last week I watched a video of a snivelling crying obtuse sexist entitled silver spoon swamp creature pleading his innocence in front of the senate. His fustration could be felt. How dare you accuse me. Who do you think you are?

Yesterday, less than a week into the job, he voted against a stay of execution.

He denied the guy the right to choose how he dies.

Tip for any potential murderers in the US. Resgister as Republican first.

Cos if you are a dem, you are gonna get injected.

The death sentence is either political or religious. Both are wrong reasons for state sanctioned murder.

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