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Q: Is being gay becoming more acceptable in China?

I saw this article on Xinhua online, and thought it interesting, ( source - http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/indepth/2012-10/20/c_131918325.htm )I have cut and pasted some of the salient points, but in effect it is saying tolerance of Gay marriages is improving but there is still a long way to go.

 

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Gay wedding reflects growing tolerance in China: experts
 

FUZHOU, Oct. 20 (Xinhua) -- A public gay wedding held in east China's Fujian Province earlier this month reflects growing tolerance for homosexuality, according to sociologists and gay rights activists.

Lu Zhong, 24, and his partner Liu Wangqiang, 20, held a high-profile wedding ceremony on Oct. 2 in Zherong County in the city of Ningde.

The ceremony, reportedly the first of its kind in Fujian, was attended by around 60 friends and relatives. The event also attracted thousands of local residents.

"We just want to form a family and maintain a long-term relationship," Lu said.

Lu and Liu's marriage is not legally recognized in China, where homosexuality has long been taboo.

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"Traditionally, gay men will marry women to hide their sexual orientation, which in many cases brings a lot of pain to the family," said Xiao Tie, a program director at the Beijing LGBT Center, an organization that provides social services and advocacy programs for local lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender communities.

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"Gay people are still discriminated against in many aspects of our society, partly because the general public do not know the gay community very well," said Zhang.

"In addition, traditional Chinese culture defines a marriage as being between a man and a woman. When two men marry, it is regarded as immoral," Zhang added.

"As gay people, what we need is respect and understanding. I hope people will get to know us better. Discrimination should never be a choice," Lu said.

 

6 years 30 weeks ago in  Relationships - Fuzhou

 
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I have read this news the other day as well. and I Wish them all the best.

 

To answer your question,I am confused ,I'd say,It will take a long time for people to accept in China ,it took years for even western people to accept, still some people can not accept it .Let alone Chinese people who is more conservative .a lot of time is needed ,I am sure Chinese people will eventually accept gay marriage.

 

Cause it's their choice,we have no right to say No to them.

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Well it obviously is becoming more acceptable.

One of the signs that.... "marked" me the most was this: You know those "vagina-short shorts"? The extremely short, tight ones? A lot of guys have been wearing that in Beijing last summer.

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  Well i've often asked students their opinions on the subject and gotten a lot of mixed answers. I was surprised how many told me that their parents would beat them if they were gay though a great many have shown a casual acceptance of homosexuality. But in the west there is still a lot of ignorance concerning being gay. It's just fear, same as racism, same as most of these petty little ignorances. Nothing to get in a twist about.

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I wonder why I keep reading in most articles dealing with homosexuality in China today that it is considered historically taboo in China.

I think it is actually just the opposite.

 

'Homosexuality in China historically was regarded as a normal facet of life[1] and the existence of homosexuality in China has been well documented since ancient times. Many early Chinese emperors are speculated to have had homosexual relationships, accompanied by heterosexual ones.[2] Opposition to homosexuality and the rise of homophobia did not become firmly established in China until the 19th and 20th centuries, through the Westernization efforts of the late Qing Dynasty and early Republic of China.[3] Homosexuality was banned in the People's Republic of China, until it was legalized in 1997.'

 

not that anyone cares about my personal views, but here they are anyway.  I had some male friends in Texas (yes, Texas! omg!) who were into the penis. They were some of my best friends, good guys, fun to be around. So, my thought is, if two consenting, lucid adults are into it, most any behavior, sexual or otherwise, that doesn't hurt others should be ok and viewed as ok by society. But yeah, I also don't think we can tell others whether to view something positively or negatively.

 

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Wow someone here does NOT approve of us claiming homosexuality is present in China.

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It is not acceptable for the older generation, some of them are ok with tit but most of them are not. The younger generation is way more open with it, they accept it but usually dont respect it, they can think it is strange but when explaining to them, it is better.

Well, people have sex in the parks, forests etc etc cause there is nowhere else they can be. They cannot be at home, in the bathouse, in hotels etc etc, it is not a possibility. As long as the people look down upon gay people, there will always be gays having sex in the parks.

However, one if the first "working class" chinese gay movement have started here in Beijing by the gays themselves. In Dongdan or in Wangfujing we have dancing groups everyday, there are gay men, women, tranvestites etc etc and we have tons of people joining in. Dongdan park is one of the safest places for gay people right now, couples can hold hand without people looking down upon them and they can even show affection by kissing and holding each other. So the movement is coming but very slow.

The biggest problem that the community will face is HIV/AIDS. It is spreading like wildfire cause of the lack of education and as long as there is no education in schools or in the open space the virus will continue to spread. And gay people will be blamed for it. The problem is also the culture, one child policy, one man in born. Think of it, he will have sex with men and maybe get infected with HIV before he is forced into a heterosexual marriage and then when he get married he is suppose to have sex with his wife to make her pregnant which leads to even more people having HIV.

So, yes, it is going forward but it will blow back soon if the HIV part of it wont be dealt with.

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Only Gay can elaborate this..

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my computer is being weird, two posts.,.

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Wow wow wow, I think we all have to wait for 'tolerance' before even considering acceptance here.

 

I also think there may be a correlation between the acceptance of girls and the tolerance of homosexuality. The boy is the breadwinner of the family, if he is gay this would go against everything. So if girls are being more accepted in families, then having a gay son may  not be so much of a face loss.

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The situation is slowly changing, though I think people will still stare at gay guys. I heard stories of parents pushing their sons to marry a girl, even when he was gay and protesting to be with a girl. This society needs a lot of time to open up, understand that there is something more out there when it comes to relationships (gay, lesbian, bi) and accept it.

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Among my Chinese associates and colleagues and general friends, those who have confided in me as to their private lives have always told me that most gay males in China are married, perhaps less so in Beijing and in Shanghai, but still the pressure to marry and procreate is indeed intense, particularly from the parents, but often indeed from the workplace.

 

That being said, there is a great deal of private life that goes on inside but outside of a marriage and they have explained that to me, too.

 

The problem, however, is that I often notice that the fully heterosexual Chinese men that I know (or at least those who claim to be, proclaim themselves to be, etc., etc.) stray a great deal more in marriage than most Western men that I know.  Again, it could be just a set of circumstances.

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http://www.realclearlife.com/daily-brief/no-gay-people-malaysian-tourism-minister/

 

People like this in the 21st century makes me want to live in a cave.

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